The September 3 city council meeting was pretty tame. The Moratorium Ordinance was tabled as was the Ordinance concerning raising the user/service fees for trash pick up. However, Mr. Messer's amendment passed. This lowered the proposed monthly increase from $5.00 to $2.00.
On a happier note, the cost of living recognition passed 8-1 on the first reading. This is the Ordinance giving the non-bargaining employees a one time wage adjustment to make up for the lack of a salary increase in 2 years.
Mr. Coffey formed a fact finding committee to look into the idea of a moratorium on building. It seems there was a question as to the legality of such an ordinance. The committee will be composed of three council members, John Gonder (chair), Bob Ceasar, Kevin Zurschmeide, two attorneys, Stan Robison and Shane Gibson, three developers and one of the engineers from the Storm Water Board. Mr. Gonder wanted one of the victims of the recent flooding added but Mr. Coffey said this was only fact finding and the public input was already on record. The results of the meetings will be presented at a public meeting, where the citizens can give their opinions.
At the end of the meeting a business owner spoke during the non-agenda public communications. Her first name if Vickie (sorry I did not hear her last name). She has a hair salon on 15th and Spring and the empty lot next to her has large sink holes which caused her basement wall to cave in. Very scary indeed. Thankfully Mr. Price and some of the other council members will contact the storm water board to see what can be done to help her. This is in spite of the fact that the problems are on private property. Thank you Mr. Price for helping this citizen. In my opinion that is what our city council is supposed to do.
Finally, Ordinance G-09-19 failed 6-3. This was the one which gave Georgetown 5 years to pay on their agreement.
On a personal note, I want to thank the council and everyone for conducting the meeting in a businesslike fashion, hardly a voice was raised.
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Who are the three developers on the committee?
Correction: there were two developers named to the fact finding committee. Scott Adams and Scott Thomas.
The real show was afterwards. Gotta mix thing up -- the public expects diversity.
What happened afterwards?
Nothing marquee-worthy happened. Call it an honest exchange of views between a few of us, and a nice dialogue about the life and times of New Albany.
Was there any word on how Mr. Adams and Mr. Thomas were selected?
Dan Coffey suggested Adams, who was last evening's only public-time speaker. Not sure where the other half originated.
Kudos to Council President Coffey, for his outstanding letter which appeared in todays Tribune.
that's a funny letter.
i think people will see what is important to coffey.
facts? no.
laws? no.
constitutional elections? no.
name calling? yes.
i'm glad coffey wrote that letter. you can't make this shit up. he could have written a letter on sewers but he didn't. he could have written a letter on police but he didn't. he could have written a letter on redevelopment but he didn't.
what did he write a letter about? of all the things about which coffey could have written, this is the most important? obviously it is.
name calling and getting at baylor, coffey's primary goals as council president.
people will laugh. i did.
Bring back the video camera! That video would have been priceless.
Professor,
I agree that it would be nice to have more letters to the paper regarding council’s positions on agenda items.
I would find them more enlightening then most current columns.
As for you can't make this stuff up
You should go to "other" blogs because their rendition of what occurred is quite bias if not untrue.
I don't care who called who a name.
I don't care who "started it."
Both sound like parts of an elementary school argument.
If Coffey is so concerned about getting the city's work done, then why hasn't he taken the time to share with us his vision for the city?
If the shoe fits, wear it LOL!
Good reporting, Shirley!
Personally, I feel, Planning, Zoning, Redevelopment, and the Stormwater Board SHOULD HAVE TO WORK HAND IN HAND, with ALL signing off on any types of development. Taxpayers should not have to foot the bills for the Developers. Use what we have and just put the laws in place we need.
10:17 Thanks to Ms. Bolovschak we once had that. But for those interested, you can obtain a cd or cassette tape copy of the August 20council meeting like we did.
remembercharlemagne, they can spin it anyway they want, but the 75-100 people who attended that August 20th meeting has family, co-workers and friends who was told the truth.
They were all witnesses to the event.
Ask yourself this:
Why is our local newspaper NOT reporting the meeting event of Aug. 20? Are they bias or is England up to his old tricks?
They can spin their lies of the event, but the truth will come out.
Why wasn't 50 arrest at the beer walk NOT reported, and that local NAPD had to call in the State Police for help?
You call that a success?
Is that NOT bias reporting or a cover up?
Cancel your subscription of the Tribune if you care about New Albany.
No wonder they send the newspaper by postal, they are on the verge of bankrupcy.
"Why wasn't 50 arrest at the beer walk NOT reported, and that local NAPD had to call in the State Police for help?"
Are there any facts to report this?
Not FOS "facts", but the genuine article?
Professor S.A.Tire,
Were you there?
Your right, you can't make this shit up.
Name calling and getting at baylor coffey's primary goal as council president.
people will laugh. i did.
Sounds like you are one of "them" progressives.
do a police check - stupid.
I work for Indiana State Police, I was there.
I suggest you check it out with Chief Craptree stupid.
I am not a big fan of Mr. Coffey,but I applaud him for writing the letter to the Tribune.You see myself and my family attended that Aug.20,2009 council meeting for the first time.We were really astonished at the rudeness and belligerent behavior of Roger Baylor!
There was a lot more went on then what Mr. Coffey mentioned. The lady at the podium was rudely interrupted several times. Mr. Smith you have your facts wrong,quit trying to sugar coat what really went on!
What myself and my family heard was the lady said,she did not want edit money taken out of her paycheck to pay for sidewalks in front of a pizza place,sidewalks and a patio in front of a bar. She would rather see her edit money that comes out of her paycheck to be used for the storm water flooding and sewer flooding over flows instead. I applaud the lady at the podium,I also agree with her.
We really give credit to the council member that said,"that is enough." I will question however,why the mayor,city attorney,and the rest of the council members were too cowardly to step up to the plate and say something to stop her from being harassed by this man. We were there,witnessed and heard the whole thing.
What myself and my family heard was the lady said,she did not want edit money taken out of her paycheck to pay for sidewalks in front of a pizza place,sidewalks and a patio in front of a bar.
The trouble is, no EDIT money went to sidewalks or patios at a bar. That was a lie and the council, including Mr. Coffey, was aware of it since they are the only ones who can approve EDIT expenditures.
Thank you for confirming that she said it, though. Should it become necessary, can we count on you to tell the truth that you just revealed here in person?
You neither have your facts correct, bluegill.
Matt Dennison even told me the Board of Works never approved that concrete wall either.
I hope a big wind blows up, and puts everyone of those concrete blocks through every sliver of glass out front of that bar.
The streets and sidewalks belong to the citizens, no one is above the law.
Not even Mayor Douglas B.England.
I called the state police.
At the beer walk, there was even someone who called someone else a "bitch."
Why isn't this front page news??
It must be a conspiracy!
Everyone knows name calling is the most pressing issue this city has!
Ms. Denhart, if you're so confident that a law was violated with Roger's wall, just write a damn letter to the editor laying out all the proof you have.
Since you have not yet written a letter to the editor with your specific allegation of fraud and favoritism, I'm going to assume that you have no proof.
Prove me wrong or shut the hell up!
Professor Erik build a university on a public sidewalk. He collects tuition in a tin can.
YEAH DENHART, IF WHAT YOU SAID WAS NOT A LIE, JUST WRITE IT ALL UP IN A LETTER (NOT ANONYMOUSLY) AND LET'S SEE. SEND IT TO THE EDITOR, AND LET
S SEE.
Did we hit a nerve?
You can sure dish it out, but you sure can't seem to take it.
Even Officer Knight knew what you were trying to pull, and she refused to allow you to play the victim.
That's why you weren't arrested.
She's my neighbor and told us what you pulled out in the hall.
You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool people all of the time.
It seems to all of us, you are not as smart as you think, huh, Roger.
Checkmate!
The officer asked me if it was worth being arrested for disorderly conduct, and I replied that yes, if being arrested might provide the opportunity to prove that Prof. Erika lied about my business then yes, it might be worth it. But I do thank both of you commenting here today. I needed a laugh.
Yes, persistent lies by Denhart and persistent lack of substance from Coffey has touched a nerve with me.
What the hell is hte big deal about the retaining wall and the side walk anyway?
Why can you people just not let it go?
First of all, you know Roger is not the ONLY owner of the business, secondly, who really cares? They are bringing in money, and visitors to downtown, which benefits us ALL here in town.
This persistant crying and whining about everything they do at bank street brewery sounds more like a two year being jealious because someone elses toy is better than theirs.
For Christs sake, we get it all ready. You hate Roger, you hate anyone who has ever agreed with him, you hate the mayor, you hate the police, you hate having to pay your fair share of taxes, you hate everything about his city for the most part.
Get over it all, grow up, and have a little maturity.
What do the little people like, except bad beer and bashing other people's ideas?
2 me, it all boils down THE CITY, THE TAXPAYERS, own that piece of concrete you built your little wall on.
r u trying to looks like Hughies? City put his there so they "keep flowers up"on Market.
How come you have built a wall on MY sidewalk? Probably it in a nut shell.
And tell me Captain Anonymous, when you go to bed at night, or when you get up in the morning to fix your cup of coffee, or when you drive to the store, eat a meal, take a shower, go to work, tell me, how the hell does a stack of retaining wall blocks negatively affect you?
Give me a good answer and maybe we will think your rants are more than childish fits of jealiousy.
Waiting for an answer with baited anticipation.
Are the bricks any different on a fundamental level than "no" signs placed in public right of ways and easements on the side of the road?
i don't know if or when the board of works gave its a piece of paper expressing permission to put the wall in place. i do know that the city extended the sidewalk FOR THE PURPOSE of being able to walk around something a wall.
if someone else wants a sidewalk, go open a business, attract people to new albany, pay the extra taxes associated with such, and the city will give you a sidewalk.
the sidewalk looks nice. new albany is full of stuff in public rights of way that just does not belong there. how many signs did i see yesterday for todd coleman's labor day sale? how many were on the median? how many coke machines are on sidewalks? if the faux citizens equally bitches about all things in the right-of-way, i'd say she cared about stuff in the right of way. since the faux citizens only bitch about roger's wall, then i think she just doesn't like roger.
corrextion:
i do know that the city extended the sidewalk FOR THE PURPOSE of being able to walk around something (such as a wall) where the wall is now.
that was all part of the deal when the city extended the sidewalk.
don't forget, roger doesn't own the building either.
Driving through N.A. this morning on my way from my floyd county office, to my Clark county office, and it would appear, Captain Anonymous, that there are bigger problems that your pet retaining wall.
If you want to get angry about something, get angry about the mountain of garbage over flowing out of the city can at the bus stop on State and Elm. Gte angry about the fact that hardly a telephone pole in the city isnt covered "prescription assistance" posters from the business pet store/ prescription import company on spring at Beharrel.
Get angry about dead or over grown trees along east spring street, tho over grown trees creating a visual obstruction to people trying to pull out onto spring from Jay or Thomas.
There is so much ugliness in our city, so much blight, and you choose to focus your energy on what is actually an attractive and visually pleasing 25 foot stretch of side walk in fron tof a successful popular business.
And as I side note, I still havent been able to find any official record of 50 arrests from the pub crawl, nor could I find any documentation of NAPD having call in the State Police for assistance for the unruley mobs.
denhart, next time you see roger, just do a citizens arrest and throw his butt in jail, if you're so confident he broke the law.
NO 50 arrests.
NO secret tapes.
NO FBI investigation.
NO professor.
NO wrongdoing on the sidewalk/wall.
I'm starting to see why the signs read "NO."
“Democracy gives every man the right to be his own oppressor. “
~James Russell Lowell
Through the discourse we have been able to read here, it is readily apparent that the anonymous poster who perpetually shows that their hypocrisy knows no bounds, fully subscribes to the quote listed above.
The blatant ignoring of pertinent issues that face this city, in favor of picking certain issues, that only have relativity based on who is involved (mainly Baylor, England, or the NAPD), clearly illustrates to me that the reported followers of CFA and FOS are NOT interested in bettering this city, but instead of advancing their own agendas of fulfilling personal vendettas.
Making outlandish claims of DOJ and FBI investigations, and making such claims publicly, to wit there is never a shred of proof offered, nor has any reports come out. A prime example of this would be the allegations of 50 arrests by the ISP, after NAPD had to call in the State to help control the mobs of people on the first inaugural bar walk in NA. If we look at that allegation, we quickly see that two other players were involved, Baylor and Mayor England.
These are deliberate and well calculated attacks on these peoples characters. Think of it as a defense attorney in a trial making a horrid statement, knowing full well that the judge will uphold a objection by the prosecution, the actual act is struck down, but the seed is planted in the minds of the jury, this is exactly what is occurring here.
By remaining anonymous in the postings, the author of these postings knows full well that they will not cross the line that will warrant subpoenas to pull the IP address, tracking back to their computer, but the postings are bad enough to seriously damage certain individuals reputation, character, and apparent trust-worthiness.
By repeatedly committing these character assassination attempts, the anonymous poster is illustrating just how sick they actually are. In a world where they feel personally wronged by the slightest transgression that is not immediately and resoundingly dealt with by way of a jail sentence or a hefty fine. Yet in the same breath, the anonymous poster decries every faction of city government, with the exception of CM Coffey, and CM Price, which incidentally those two, and occasionally CM Gahan, are known combatants of Baylor, and often clash with Mayor England and his administrative staff.
The consistent abuse of statistics, bent to a form that no longer is recognizable at what is originally was, the twisting of a privately written letter to an office that soon becomes a “full blown” investigation by the authorities, it is merely a subscription to the adage “any story told often enough, is eventually accepted as truth”, and the anonymous poster knows this.
By discrediting certain members of the community, they are in effect pulling the lime light off of the real problems, problems, that truth be told, is something that this person feeds on, lives for, and thrives in. Or perhaps something worse, this person may be throwing out so many red herrings to keep eyes diverted from something that they personally have done that is illegal, or is doing now.
Regardless of the reasons why this person does what they do, be that fake professors posting fake information on fictional blogs, claiming to get thousands of letters in support of the postings, though no REAL address is readily available, nor do we ever see any of the information anywhere else but there, despite the news worthy sensationalism, this is the public display a one persons personal sickness.
The only way to combat such cowardice, and such attempts to deliberately damage certain peoples names, is to require that all posters are at least to be known to the publisher, so in the cases where it rises to the level of civil damage, something can be done to correct that.
Don't any of you people have real jobs?
If Citizens Faux Accountability is against beer walks because of citations, CFA must really be against Harvest Homecoming's. Last year there really were numerous citations (over 100) for alcohol law violations. And that you really CAN check with the state.
None of the 100+ citations were at Bank Street because Roger hired extra security, made sure everyone was carded, and made sure drunks didn't care open containers into the streets.
The opposite was going on at Hugh E'Birs and Past Times.
Even if there were 50 arrests they certainly weren't in front of Bank Street Brewhouse.
Mr. Drake for someone who ASSUMES to KNOW so MUCH, you don't know jack shit about Ms. Denhart, Citizens for Accountability, or FOS.
You claim CFA is NOT REAL
You claim CFA is NOT a PAC
and on and on.
If you think for one minute anything you say or any of your other lick wipes says bothers her, you are mistaken.
How much free beer do you get? How can you attack someone you know nothing about? Why because your friends with Baylor?
Where is your creditability? You have NONE just like the others.
Your just like all the rest, if you don't like what someone else says, you attack them.
You never defended Bolovschak, when Baylor attacked her.
You also have a double standard.
Any man that attacks a woman is not much of a man.
Calling a woman a lying bitch, does not prove nothing, did that show the citizens there, that he had class, something to say, he's a business man. How did that look to potential customers? Not good at all. It showed is unctrolled temper, his unstable mentality, and did not achieve what he wanted to do. He proved nothing, absolutely nothing. Believe me what he did hurt his creditability and name. But then everyone knows in New Albany what a lose cannon he is.
He sits behind a computer an attacks anyone and everyone. He NEEDS to get up in a public meeting and state his own opinion.
The last time I check their is such a thing called the Constitution.
Don't think for one minute Ms. Denhart cares what anyone thinks or says. She's not lost any sleep, in fact she find humor in how Baylors plan back fired on him. She has more common sense in her little finger, than in your entire body.
Keep drinking the kool-aid Chris your a loser just like the rest of them.
Btw, lets see you tell Ms. Denhart to her face, but then your like all the rest just a big fat pussy!
Maybe you need to hear what your so called friends say behind your back and call you.
WOULD you like for me to post them, dates, times and emails about you?
It will take more than you, Gillenwater, Iamhoosier, Smith and Baylor to get to her.
Roger showed his true self, at that meeting.
Don't think for one minute that several, elected officials, office holders, judges, attorney, not counting democrats and republicans don't think very kindly of what happened.
Remember this, Doug England won't be mayor forever!
When you burn bridges, make the enemies Baylor has made in New Albany, they can run your fat ass outta town.
You of all people know this is true, at least your dad knew it.
You all bitch about Price, but you can't get him outta office. Run for office Chris, spend your own money and see how many votes you and the progressives can get.
You all talk the talk but won't walk the walk.
You all hate Dan the man, but you can't get him out of office. Run Chris, spend your money, your time and everything else. No instead you try to fix an election by redistricting (btw, which was approved by the state and is a dead issue)
You progressives don't have the power to elect NO one. If you did, it would have already happen.
You have joined a cult and your to stupid to realize Baylor is using you just like everyone else.
So get out of our Fuckin sandbox, either go play with yourself, or play with all your athesist drunken buddies.
Then lick your bruised ego, and get a real life.
8:18 who put the NO signs in the right of way? Ask Roger, he knows. We have documentation and pictures where they were placed. Digital cameras have time and dates on them.
Hey, Shirley, one of the guys who flunked anger management is using bad words again. I'm highly offended.
Bravooooooooooo,
It's high time someone told these bast**ds off. Oh hay, in case you want to know what I have been up to, I've been working two very interesting jobs just to fed my family and keep a roof over our heads.
Love your blog Shirley, Jim still fishing out at the park?
Why do I have this strange feeling that Judge Granger won't be getting a Christmas card from Vickie this year?
Hey,CD! Et tu a "wing-nut" or do you prefer IDIOT! And Chris! My head hurts! Stupod people make my head hurt.
You must have one heck of a headace, my friend, after reading the really intelligent (and grammatically sound and well-punctuated - snark/snark) comments.
But please don't stop sharing your intelligent opinions, Christopher.
I'm a former English teacher I CRAVE smart and well-written comments.
That's why I read Shirley's site every day.
Good job anonymous. Looks like you got some of these sheep rattled.
PROVE CFA IS A PAC.
YOU HAVE NOT YET DONE SO YOU LYING BITCH.
A PAC MUST BE REGISTERED. IT IS NOT.
I don't think Denhart's a lying bitch at all.
I just think she can't tell the difference between truth and fiction.
I love the bumblin', stumblin' post. After reading that,what comes to mind is Roger Baylor: WOW."
I am not a Psychologist, but I am trained in related fields. If you are at all curious Baylor,you might want to look into Narcissism, Bordenline Personality Disorder, and good old fashioned Psychopath to pretty much sum up the bulk of your character.
To sum up: "It's always about you." "What's in it for you and nobody else".
you don't know jack shit about Ms. Denhart, Citizens for Accountability, or FOS.
How could anyone? She doesn't sign her name to anything, even when she posts ten anonymous blogger posts in a ten minute span.
Some anonymous is really good at calling Roger names. Must be a third grader.
PROOF! PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
Btw, lets see you tell Ms. Denhart to her face, but then your like all the rest just a big fat pussy!
That's really funny! Hey Anonymous, let's see your face too!
WHEN IS PROFESSOR ERIC GOING TO DEBATE ROGER? ROGER ACCEPTED THE DEBATE? PROFESSOR ERIC HASN'T ACCEPTED. HE MUST BE TOO BUSY NOT EXISTING.
Hey Denhart, how's the alien abduction thing going? You have "proof" of UFOs and Bigfoot too, don't you? Can I see the secret video of the ghosts and the elves? I know CFA has a shitload of money because they found a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow?
No instead you try to fix an election by redistricting (btw, which was approved by the state and is a dead issue)
Making up facts again, are we?
Apparently someone knows more about the case then the judge does?
Your just like all the rest, if you don't like what someone else says, you attack them.
Oh this is just priceless.
Denhart has refused to answer the questions about the tapes, the investigations, the evidence of fraud, the "professor," and she accuses progressives of not wanting to debate issues? Funny, Funny stuff!
Apparently Vicki Denhart runs the city, chooses who is elected and makes the laws.
Who knew?
Hey Denhart, if you're so confident that stupid Price and ignorant Coffey always will run the city, then how did England get elected? People want someone who's going to fix up the city, not someone who's going to flush it down the toilet.
He's our Mayor and it's time YOU got used to that FACT.
IF everyone hates Roger so much, then why are his businesses doing so well?
I didn't know Smith, Cassady and Gillenwater could drink enough beer to keep two breweries afloat? They must drink thousand of gallons of beer a day.
I know Denhart owns a fake University, but what businesses does she run? Who dines at her restaurant? Who buys her products?
Oh, that's right, everyone knows she's a crazy nut and would never dare eat anything she cooked, drink anything she brewed or buy anything she made.
That's right, she's a failure and is bitter about it and wants to take out her frustrations on someone who is educated, hard working and successful.
He sits behind a computer an attacks anyone and everyone. He NEEDS to get up in a public meeting and state his own opinion.
Now THAT'S funny! Everyone knows Roger's views. You can go to his website and read everything he's written for the past five years. Or, you can read the Tribune each week? He signs his name and he even has a little picture of himself you can see what he looks like.
Denhart doesn't let anyone know her views. She posts here anonymously. She spreads rumors. She runs a fake website by a fake college professor. She hides her views because she knows people will ask her for proof, and oh yeah, she can't prove anything she says because she just makes stuff up.
From FOS:
THOMAS JEFFERSON SAID IT BEST:
WHEN THE PEOPLE FEAR
THEIR GOVERNMENT,
THERE IS TYRANNY;
WHEN THE GOVERNMENT
FEARS THE PEOPLE,
THERE IS LIBERTY!
Well put.
I fear a government when people are too partisan to let their kids watch a speech encouraging them to study and work hard.
I fear a government when we consider a President as ill informed and as stupid as George W. Bush or Sarah Palin.
I fear a government where Congressmen say it's OK for "tea party" protesters to show off guns at their protests
I fear a government where we do not elect our officials but constitutional means.
Citizens for Accountability is being investigated by the federal elections commission for violation of federal election laws. Prosecutors are looking into Denhart's illegal activities. She's looking at 10-20 years in the federal pin. Call the prosecutors and ask them yourself.
too funny!
blah, blah, blah.
Actually, having giving it more thought, I have no need to defend myself or my statements from an anonymous poster who claims to know me, as such I have decided to delete the rebuttal I have posted and I offer an appology to Shirley for perpetuating further arguing on her blog.
I called the state police. There was one arrest at the beer walk, Vicky Denhart. She has to do 100 hours of community service.
100 hours was for the public intoxication. She still has to answer for her impersonation of an officer.
Coors does that to a person. It's right-wing beer, although in deference to current usage, perhaps it should be referred to as Blue Dog beer.
Lesson One in Faux Grassroots campaigning: Post lots of posts to blogger sites and make it sound like you're more than one person.
I learned that at Denhart's astroturfing class last month. Great stuff! You could tell she had lots of experience.
The NO signs were paid for with CDBG money? That's what the Steve Price told me yesterday. Call him and confirm for yourself! I can't believe this bull. Why is my taxpayer money going to pay for NO signs??? It's time to take back this city for the little people!
-Brad
Anon 6:25,
That's "Cassidy", with an "I".(vbg)
Speaking of beer, one commenter wondered how much free beer Roger gave some of us. The last free beer(1)that Roger gave me was two years ago, the day my mother died. Not complaining, just refuting an allegation.
to 9/8 4:54PM
I did not delete your comment this time but be careful with the language. I left the comments with the word bitch on the blog because they were referring to something that was said.
If anyone continues to use profanity your comments WILL BE DELETED
thank you
Spoke to Daniel S. The Tribune is running an expose on CFA next week. Going to air all VD's legal troubles.
9:28 Are you saying England taught her how to impersonate a police officer?
Maybe the Mayor was flashing his new BADGE again.
CFA/VD takes some heat and points the finger. Never ever ever ever ever wants to answer a question about herself.
What's CFA's plans for fixing the sewer? What's CFA's plans for the roads to not become dirt paths? What's VD's proof that Roger did something unethical/illegal?
YOU ASK HER A QUESTION, SHE POINTS THE FINGER AT SOMEONE ELSE.
I need some accountability from CFA.
I've only read one plan that Denhart had about the sewers....something about outhouses.
Vicky, if you have a better plan, tell us what it is. If you have one that's free, GREAT, let's see it.
If you don't show us your plan, we're going to assume outhouses and/or raw sewage in people's houses are fine with you.
The same goes for Coffey or Price.
You have a plan? NO!
You have a clue? NO!
What's your sign say? NO!
If you are leaders, then show us your great ideas for fixing the REAL PROBLEMS.
What do people care about? Flooding in their basement or name calling from Baylor? GET OVER IT! No one cares who made a funny face or who called who a name. That's third grader talk.
People care about fixing the sewers. You wrote a letter to the editor, Dan Coffey, about the name calling? I presume you wrote the letter because you had solved all the more pressing issues, like flooding and roads.
Now it's time for you to show us what you got!
Any democratically elected Government is representative of the constituency who had elected them.
Please take a few moments from your busy schedules to read over the relentless diatribes posted to this as well as other threads on this forum.
After reading and reflecting on these postings, ask yourselves this fundamental question:
"Why is New Albany in the shape it is in?"
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These dated messages were paid for by the committee to Re Elect Douglas B. England for Mayor,City of New Albany, maybe Indiana Governor, or maybe just State Represenative.
Anon 12:19 PM
This is basically the premise I was attempting to point out with my posting yesterday morning, and you can see the response I had gotten.
I questioned the tactics used by the wonderous anonymous poster who is the "mouthpeice" for CFA/FOS on this blog, and in response I got blasted, personally, professionally, and even so far as to try and guilt trip me by envoking my father.
It is a ruthless game, one of which we all lose, because a very vocal, and very aggressive minority of people in this community can not seem to let go of personal vendettas they have against a handful of people.
They subscibe to the Bush doctrine of "You are either with us, or against us".
There are no gray areas, no independents, no mid-liners in their eyes. To them all is fair game, they donot care who they hurt, they do not care who they run over, or whose lives they have the potential to destroy, the goal for them is satisfaction.
Hmmm.... Does CFA/FOS/VD want to talk facts and issues, or does she just want to call people names, make insults, tell lies?
We're waiting for the debate still!
Another progressive slap down: Ultimately, I am baffled that Mr. Nash would write an entire piece on a subject he knows so little about. I must say - next time, do your homework.
Priceless - Mrs. Pezzarossi
We recommend the tribune get real fact finding, qualified journalist.
Not these know it all yahoo's who have no clue to what they are doing, let alone talking about who only have their very own interest and agenda at heart.
Bravo Leah!
Yep,that's why they call them the wannabe's for sure.
Pezzarossi made her poitns rather poorly. Saying Nash doesn't know the subject doesn't necessarily make it so. She came across as ignorant and confused. Maybe that's why CFA appluads her.
Besides, I thought anonymous cancelled her subscription to the Tribune?
Still the senseless babble continues.
The ones who have good ideas are ridiculed, the ones who do nothing but issue baseless pseudo-facts continue.
Again, ask yourselves, why is New Albany failing while every city in the region is excelling?
Is there not anyone amongst you who would dare to at least venture an answer?
(For clarification this is directed at both fractured and dysfunctional factions)
Instead of an insult against Nash, will CFA tell me its plan for a new Youth Home?
The county's position is this:
We should go to community park because it's cheapest because we already own it.
Under that logic, the government should liquidate its parks before ever doing anything else.
Under that logic, the city should use the parks, playgrounds, and sidewalks and turn them into gabage dumps, police stations, dog pounds.
it's cheapest. and who needs a park, or a playground, or a sidewalk anyhow?
our city's founding fathers were pretty stupid to make parks in the first place. i wish louisville would develop cherokee park....sure should make a nice paintball range...add a hooters and a mcdonalds.
parks are evil.
Pezzarossi's letter is amazing. Why she does talk about facts some, she adds inflamatory details that are irrelevent to the issues Nash discussed.
Nash's objection was not anti-child. Nash's objections were the cost of the project per child, and to the location of the project.
Pezzarossi seems to interpret Nash's questions as meaning that Nash someone dislikes children.
That, plus Pezzarossi sloppy tone indicate that it was a knee-jerk letter she wrote. It's an emotional response. Her anger (at being questioned) will settled down and she might be willing to listen and discuss facts at a later point.
Leah is a great advocate and a doer, but unfortunately, she must deal with the unimaginative knee jerking of county government, which would be enough to give Stockholm Syndrome to virtually anyone.
DLB - every nation get the government it deserves; goes for cities too (but you knew that)
Thank You Mr. President for an Excellent Speech!
Sept 8, U R FULL OF IT. More carding there, along with police at these two places...LOL
Anything to make fun of a hardworking family, while u r still trying to make your bread and butter, LOL.
Thanks Shirley.
Anonymous made the false claim that there were 50 arrests at the beer walk. I assume he/she was trying to make the point that Roger was responsible for the arrests. First, Roger didn't organize the beer walk, so what's your point? Second, Roger didn't have any citation at Bank Street during last year's harvest homecoming while there were many other citations at other downtown bars.
If CFA would like to call the police and refute that FACT in writing, please, by all means, write a letter to the editor. Let's see who runs their businesses lawfully. Go on the record if you're so damn sure that Roger's breaking the law and everyone else is goody goody.
Roger could have kept the extra profits by not hiring security (that's "security," not "police" as you misstated). Roger could have kept the extra profits while teenagers drank beers and his place and then left to wonder around the streets. Roger could have made more money by selling to every Joe walking by and allowing them to carry an open container down to Pearl St.
BUT HE DIDN'T. Roger didn't make a fuss about it. Roger didn't call all this addition to himself. Roger didn't go around bragging that he was the most compliant with the law.
BUT NOW ANONYMOUS WANTS TO SUGGEST ROGER IS CAUSING BEER WALK ARRESTS. You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. I wish only our faux citizens knew the difference between fact and opinion.
It is regrettable and shocking that to further her dramatic escapades that Denhart wwill file an order of protection against members of this community who speak to her.
There were no threats of violence, there were no threats of physical attack, or anything, yet this coward who hides behind her anonymous veil will capatilize on pushing people to their breaking point with lies, unprovable allegations, and then file for a protective order when her mouth is writing checks she cant cash.
Shame on you Denhart! If you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen you coward
If the securing of an order of protection is true, this is nothing more than a political move by Vicki to manipulate the system to obtain a tool to have Mr. Baylor barred from attending public meetings so that she may speak as she wishes with out anyone of real note to counter what she says.
It is an underhanded trick as old as order of protections themselves. I am quite sure she signed an affidavit, and played the elderly disabled concerned citizen who feels threatened physically by the towering Mr. Baylor.
It is a shame and a travesty of justice that the courts have granted an EPO to Vicki, as she is obviously incapable of accepting the responsibility of the recklessness of her public speaking.
I know she is going to read this as well as feel certain she will respond as an anonymous poster, but I agree with the previous commenter that Vicki should be ashamed of herself for this unnecessary, unwarranted act that is designed to do nothing more than to vilify Mr. Baylor.
It's a move that would backfire.
If she's at a council meeting, Roger shows up, and she tries to have him arrested, that wouldbe front page news. The truth would come out, and Ms. Denhart would be exposed to everyone has a paranoid nutcase and Coffey as the nutcase's enabler.
Roger, there are several local attorneys I know who would love to represent you on this.
A good friend of mine had referred me to this website as that persons name has been raked through the mud by a person or persons who claim to be associated with an organization called "Citizens for Accountability" also referred to as "Citizens for Accountability in Local Government"
To the best of my ability, there is no record with Indiana Secretary of State regarding proper registry of "Citizens for Accountability in Local Government" as a legal, registered Political Action Committee. Nor could I find any information regarding a legal designation of the above named entity have the official title to present itself as a PAC under the Indiana Election Division, as such it brings into question if the placement of the "no" signs are illegal under Indiana Campaigning laws, if the civil / criminal penalties for those who have publicly stated that they are Board Officers of a PAC called "Citizens for Accountability in Local Government" are applicable.
Is there a penalty for circulating or publishing
literature or other material concerning a
candidate without the required disclaimer?
Yes. The penalty is a Class A misdemeanor,
punishable by up to a $5,000 fine, not more than
one (1) year imprisonment, or both. (IC 3-14-1-3)
Are there other penalties that can result from a
disclaimer violation?
Yes. If a disclaimer states that “Citizens Against
Thomas” paid for the material, but this group has
not filed a required statement of organization with a
county election board, then the group may be fined
by the county election board for failing to file the
statement of organization on time.
What is the proper procedure to report
violations for circulating or publishing
materials without a disclaimer?
You must file a written complaint with the
appropriate county election board or prosecuting attorney.
What are some examples of political materials
and literature requiring disclaimers?
Newspaper advertisements, billboards, signs,
posters, yard signs, (whether homemade or
commercially printed), portable billboards,
brochures, leaflets, circulars, letterheads and direct
mail pieces sent to more than 100 persons.
WHAT is a “disclaimer”?
A disclaimer identifies who paid for certain political
material and whether any candidate approves of
the material if the material is paid for by someone
other than the candidate.
Under these rules, by not including the required full disclaimer, as described under State Election laws, the question is raised if letters to the editor of local papers, the campaign signs that do not include the required full disclosure of the disclaimer, are legal. And as such I am referring this situation to the Indiana Elections Commission and the States Attorneys General Office.
The problem with making such big waves, when you are in the smaller boat is often you are the one who ends up getting wet. Sorry Citizens for Accountability, but time to answer for your actions.
If it can be proven that Vicki in any way shape or form fabricated, inflamed or manipulated the circumstances under which she obtained the EPO, then there may be grounds for a reversal of the EPO, as well as civil liability on Vicki's part.
The affidavit should be a matter of public record and available under open records laws.
In addition to this, if Vicki in anyway contacts Mr. Baylor through these forums, or if a person claiming to be a representative of Vicki's contacts Mr. Baylor, that may in fact constitute a violation of the terms of the EPO and nullify it.
To me personally, it would be worth it if I were Mr. Baylor to seek information from Blogger for subsequent posts that specifically name him, and seek civil restitution from her.
To CFA, you had a powerful potential ally in me, but now you have a powerful advocate against your group and its members with this disgraceful PR stunt. Study my initials hard Vicki, put on your thinking cap, I am sure you can put two and two together.
(edited)
To my knowledge, Ms. Denhart filed the petition for a protective order, and it was dismissed. I assume that's what a previous poster meant by saying that Judge Granger wouldn't be receiving a Christmas card from CFA this year.
As for me, I knew nothing about any of it until the petition had already been dismissed. There's something very sad about all of it, especially since the purely fictitious Prof. Erika now is congratulating the congressman for heckling the president.
Some folks might judge that a shade hypocritical, but then again, Erik's a cartoon character, isn't she?
Meanwhile, the second raters wail and moan as the clock ticks into the future. No platform, no plan and no program, just rage at the intrusions of modern times. It's really too bad that we can't have a conversation that might lead to something of substance, but for so long as people where sacks over their heads, it can't happen, and that's bad for everyone.
I can see the rotten fruit coming my way.
An Open Letter to my Slanderer:
Since you choose to not allow for any direct rebuttal, I decided to post this here, publicly where it can be read.
It is a terrible shame that you would hide behind your anonymity and cast these accusations which you know not to be true, but it is even more shameful when you resort to personal attacks, and call into question my loyalty to those I consider friends, and smear the name of my father, who above all else dedicated his life to this community and in essence chose serving this community over his own best chance at survival.
We have many of the same friends and acquaintances, and those friends and acquaintances are just as loyal to me, as I am to them. I am not speaking of Roger, nor am I Speaking of VAB, both of whom, yes I would consider friends.
But people talk, and in a town the size of ours, when you step on too many toes, eventually you step on the wrong toes, and even those you feel are close to you will divulge your secrets.
Such is the case here. I will not publicly name the individual who has made the statements against me in this last personal attack when I questioned the tactics used by reputed members of CFA and followers of FOS. I, unlike you, are above that. However I will say this much; You have been betrayed, and even though most visitors to this site seem to think they know who the lions share of postings come from, I can assure you that I now I do know who you are.
My connection to the inside of your circle as well feels that enough is enough, and I will assure you of this, any further allegations made by you insinuating illegal campaign contributions, or any unfounded character attacks on me, my family, my business will be met with a lovely civil law suit for defamation of character. You can leave your lawyer friends at home as well, I will take it through small claims where it is just you and I, a couple of character witnesses and the proof I need to take action.
In addition to this, I am quite sure I can manage to make it front page news, as a person who was in your position creates quite the sensationalism.
Do not tempt me further on this. Because I have backed off politically does not mean that I have lost my nerve, it simply means my attentions have been shifted elsewhere.
No fancy stone wall surrounding your home will be able to keep out the embarrassment, the legal fees, and the truth being brought out which will land squarely on your lap. And I will do every LEGAL thing in my power to bring you down and reveal you for the two faced, back stabbing political prostitute you have become. You warned me not to burn my bridges, as I will be run out of town, well my friend, your bridge is now on fire, and you will not be run out of town, as you know as well as I do you have too much here at stake to be run out, you will stay, but you will be the laughingstock of the political community, no one will take you seriously again, and for a person with an ego like yours, that will be a worse fate than being ran out of town.
There was I time that even though you and I disagreed, I still respected you, but now that time is over, respect has been replaced with one last chance for you to back off, stand up, be accountable, stand behind what you say, or I WILL expose you for what you truly are, and WILL produce the evidence to back up what I say, and you will not have any legal recourse to do anything about it.
The ball is in your court, time to decide, are you going to play nice, or are you ready for to be benched?
Thank you and God Bless
Today's FOS Slop:
REP JOE WILSON NAILS OBAMA!
Rep. Joe Wilson NAILED it last night when he rose up and called Obama a Liar!
"Nailed"? Mr. Wilsons's democratic opponent received $400,000 in campagin contributions over night. Wilson's webpage is down fpr "high volume" and his opponent has a campagin contribution form on his website. People aren't putting up with shouts, nationally or locally.
I don't know yet who will run against Coffey and Price, but each time one of them violates the constitution, or insults "them people," or makes a rude statement, or just says something stupid without trying to learn the facts, I'm going to set aside $100 for whoever ends up running in the next election.
The New Albanian your constant demonizing of anyone who doesn't agree with you is pretty lame and petty.
Ah...another child left behind.
Shirley please don't publish any more of these braindead, brainwashed, hoople's comments. I come here to get away from the idiot progressives, not to be forced into reading (yes, like passing a trainwreck or a moth to a flame, I am forced to read this bs.) Their inane and backasswards viewpoints.
Don't subject your loyal readers to their diseased madness,even just to show us how ignorant they really are.
Let us set the facts straight.
David Huckleberry was jeered and catcalled whenever he spoke at a Council meeting, because the Progressives didn't like the way he spoke. The intimidation didn't stop there. Someone started leaving piles of newspapers at the end of his driveway EVERY NIGHT until Dave put a sign up Trespassers will be SHOT ON SIGHT.
Once Baylor was removed from this last meeting, his professional wife would lean over and act like she was fiddling with her socks and doing the cat calling.
His whiskers were touching his face and I hear he smelled bad.
Come on Council, you can not let a few intimidate, harrass and interrupt these meetings. I don't give a darn if he lost his temper or not. There are several good citizens who do care about other things than the Progressives' ideas.
Amen.
Whatever happened to Brambleberry?
I jess luv the waay he dissrespekted the plegge of allejiance.
FER ALL or, FERAL
Yikes Christopher!!!!
What a cry baby, Oh boooohooo.
Scrub, Rinse, Repeat.
Boooohooo, what a cry baby you are.
"The New Albanian your constant demonizing of anyone who doesn't agree with you is pretty lame and petty.
Ah...another child left behind."
And we are to believe that the behavior of Denhart, Kochert, Bolognia-ski, and the likes is no better?
At person who left Anon 8:59, 9:08, 9:20.
You're really good at name calling.
How about we discuss some issues?
Heck, I'll be happier even if you were extremely rude when talking about issues, but at least have a point about some issue.
braindead, brainwashed, hoople's comments. I come here to get away from the idiot progressives, not to be forced into reading (yes, like passing a trainwreck or a moth to a flame, I am forced to read this bs.) Their inane and backasswards viewpoints.
If their views are so "backasswards," then you should have an easy time refuting them with logic and facts.
Let's count the people who have used logic and facts to refute two way streets, redistricting, redevelopment, etc.
1. Coffey...nope
2. Price....nada
3. Denhart...sorry charlie
4. Gahan...not yet
5. Benedetti...still waiting
6. Anonymous...hahahaha.
7. Professor "Eric"...no debate yet.
What's going to run this city?
Will it be facts, logic, evidence, science, reason, discussion, debate, rule of law?
Or will it be insults, name calling, obstruction, anonymity, rumor, fear, fear-mongering, intimidation, superstition, complacency?
Spring Street looks beautiful!
The bike lanes are beautiful!
The only way to improve on it is two-way traffic, which won't take long.
The Tribune article said the only cost of the bike lanes was the two extra paint stripes.
As long as the two way ends by Bank Street, then no traffic lights will need to be reprogrammed. All the city will need to do it take some stop signs and turn them around 180 degrees.
Price said this was going to cost $2 million. Was each stripe a million each?
Has anyone noticed the number of cars traveling Spring Street has declined? Wonder what that means.
Fewer cars? Some people think cars are traveling other streets and some think many people have moved out of New Albany. (How many vacant houses are there now? Slipping to a third class city?)
Don't you think all those people who were driving the cars have now switched to bikes? See all the bike traffic!
CFA demands accountability, and I reminded of the phrase, be careful what you wish for.
Congratulations to Matt Nash for his column, as well as for Baylors column, standing up and speaking out against the propaganda machine.
I used to be independent until about three days ago.
So go ahead and sign me up for the "progressives" team.
You demand accountability? You got it, be ready to smile for the camera at every function, video does not lie, still photos tell the truth, and the lens never blinks!
Has anyone noticed the number of cars traveling Spring Street has declined? Wonder what that means.
I think it means fewer people in Clarksville are using New Albany as a shortcut to I-65.
If CFA wants to do an honest, scientific traffic study, I'm fine with that. But we also have to do an honest, scientific study on improved home prices brought by bike lanes, pollution levels, noice levels, safety to neighborhood children, etc.
If you want accountability, I say bring it on. I want accountability in city planning and traffic patterns too. It appears that the city is finally moving in the right direction. Now we just need some two way streets. I'm willing to hold that opinion up to scrutiny, but everything gets to be scrutinized.
Accountability?
I encourage all readers, when they notice a "NO" sign posted on a public right of way, that includes the strip of grass between the sidewalk and the street to report it to the following commission:
Indiana Election Commission
C/O Secretary of State Todd Rokita
201 Statehouse
Indianapolis, IN 46204
317.232.6531 (phone)
317.233.3283 (fax)
or by email at:
elections@iec.in.gov
If Citizens For Accountability is a Registered PAC, then they have to follow all election laws, and they have violated them with the illegal postin gof these signs. If they truly are not, then they are a bunch of liars.
I agree, Spring St. does look beautiful and downtown doesn't look like a ghost town anymore.
But we can't forget about what we can't see, namely the sewers and storm drains. We can't forget about all of those people who had a foot of human waste in their basements or yards so polluted their children could not go out to play.
Shirley,
I agree, in principle to what you are saying.
However, I must add this to that topic of conversation;
When my block on my street sat unassisted for months on end with rental homes flooded with raw sewage, sweltering in the summer heat, we could not and would not get assistance from the city.
When a letter to the editor was written questioning the motives and lack there of from our districts representative, when myself and others had called him, and written him letters, with no response, AFTER it hit the papers, regarding his failure to act on the behalf of those he represents, I got a lovely phone call from him, cursing me, swearing at me, and giving me the good old " If your dad was around, he would be so disappointed in you"
This former council member is now involved in the very small, but very vocal group who demands accountability from Government, and supports the measures being pushed by that particular group.
I ask this, if we KNOW individuals who refused to act on their duties to protect the safety, welfare, and well being of the citizens that they were elected to represent are part of a political action group who is unfairly obtaining favoritism from persons with in city government, how can we truly expect to foster and real change?
Any attempts to better situations that truly matter to the health, safety and well being of this community are met with fierce disapproval, misinformation, and public criticism based on unfounded information, therefore nullifying any attempts to effect change.
Another prime example of this was enhanced code enforcement. Committees were formed, meetings were held, and nothing happened, the committee was dissolved, the city is in just as bad of shape as it has ever been, and Lo and Behold, many of the more vocal people against that action are now the ones displaying the lovely "NO" signs in their yards.
Supporting, harboring, or even turning a blind eye and NOT speaking out against the biased, unfounded actions of this particular group is nearly as bad as the actions of the group itself.
It is high time that the silent MAJORITY, who support progress, which supports fostering of initiatives that cater to the health, safety and well being of this city, measures that improve the infrastructure, and prepare the way for our city to at LEAST catch up with Jeffersonville, Clarksville, and suburbs of Louisville.
We are lagging so far behind on everything because of factions that do everything possible to stall any efforts for this city to pick itself up by its boot straps.
But the days of an outspoken minority of political has beens dictating the policies of this city through a campaign of misinformation, deception, and "untraceable" character assassination is coming to an end.
This is not our city, we are merely have it on loan from future generations, and it is time that we choose, are we going to leave the next generation a dysfunctional, ill maintained, antiquated mess we are living with now, or are we going to turn it around, not only in spite of, but as a direct challenge to the small group of individuals, to show them what this city can and should be!
But we can't forget about what we can't see, namely the sewers and storm drains. We can't forget about all of those people who had a foot of human waste in their basements or yards so polluted their children could not go out to play.
I agree that the sewers are a serious problem that need serious attention. But it's not "either-or." Painting two stripes down each street doesn't mean we can't fix the sewers. Converting streets to two ways doesn't mean we can't fix the sewers. We can deal with the sewers AND redevelop downtown. The city just has to try. Right now, councilmembers are saying they're not willing to try.
Shirley,
Of course you have a point. A really good one. These sewer and storm water problems need to be fixed.
The problem with the likes of CFA is that, all they want to do is whine about the sewers but don't want to pay the fees and taxes necessary to fix them. Seen the "NO" signs?
I can just "hear" them, right now. "We have already spent a gazillion dollars and the sewers should already be fixed!!" That could very well be true. However, unless CFA can prove that fraud has occured in the repairs of the sewers and force money to be paid back or extra work to be done for "free", the sewers are still backing up in people's homes.
Has anyone heard a plan from the naysayers to fix the problem? Again, all they want is to take advantage of the situation. If they really cared, they would be willing to pony up the money, to really help those owners and all of New Albany. Woulda, coulda, shoulda, has not fixed a problem yet.
Looks like we have a pressure cooker going here folks!
The CFA Stallers have fumbled the ball with little time left on the clock, can they pick up the peices and stop the Progressive Pint Tippers for carrying this all the way to the end zone and scoring the winning Touch Down
Has anyone noticed the number of cars traveling Spring Street has declined?
No, and I drive it every day at or near rush hour. No impact whatsoever other than a little bit safer traffic speeds. I will, however, enjoy the bike lanes.
Dear Mark & Christopher,
I did not mean that we should not paint lines and make bike lanes in the streets. I just meant that we should not forget the sewer problems. I agree that we can't fix the sewers for nothing. The money spent in the past is gone and we can't get it back. We have to look forward and try to make our city safe and clean.
Didn't mean to stir up a hornet's nest.
You weren't stiring up anything, as for as I was concerned. I didn't have any doubt that you realized that we need to move on and find solutions.
Nor I either Shirley.
I completely agree with what you had said, in fact, generally speaking that type of situation has been my basic platform in every arena of my activities in the city.
I dont want a hornets nest either, I allergic! :)
EMPORER LARRY:
Thank you for proving my point!
Can't they put some bike lanes on Main St. also? I wouldn't bother with Market traffic tends to be slower on that street. In fact I passed up Roger in a Geo Metro today on my bicycle carrying a vinyl copy of Goat Head Soup in one hand, and Cold Roses in my mouth.
Is there suppose to be a sing along now? Dancing with Mr. D maybe?
Ugly?
"Some Girls" and Wild Irish Rose sound like more fun to me.
It was a strange biking day today. Three different fifty-something shirtless males riding bikes downtown. Hair, bandages, guts and wheezing. It was distracting.
I've never really understood why we need to be seeing things like that.
I may be ugly, but I always wear a shirt. Then again, I'm only 49.
It's true "Some Girls" is a better album. Um, Cold Roses is a Ryan Adams album not to be confused with Bryan Adams when you were in high school. I don't know of any half naked 50 something year old's who listen to Ryan Adams.
We both know those guys don't care enough to get on here.
I had a shirt on and it wasn't size XXL.
I'm sorry not all the young hip people are in your pocket Roger.
I agree with some of your opinions such as more bicycle lanes, and general progression in New Albany, but that doesn't mean I have to like the person you are.
You need to go read that open letter again, and leave your ego behind while doing it.
Ryan Adams knowledge as signifier of things young and hip? Now that's funny.
What the hell are you talking about Bluegill? Ryan Adam's Knowledge? He's probably thinking about how much whiskey he will drink before dying and how many strange albums he can make in the mean time.
I understand what you are saying, but that is poor writing.
Would you like to add what would be a signifier of things young and hip?
Gomez.....?
Perhaps MGMT?
Or....The Grizzly Bears and The Fleet Foxes, those guys bringing back the rocking chair.
"You need to go read that open letter again, and leave your ego behind while doing it."
Okay, Massa Pseudonym.
Roger with no ego? Perish the thought.
I can't think of a person who bothers to comment on a blog that doesn't have an ego. And, sometimes, a problem with their own ego.
Doesn't it get old resorting to the same old responses? When all else fails hit the emergency pseudonym button!
You should program your computer so you can strike one key for a commonly used phrase.
The A key could be; Down with anonymity!
The T key could be used for when you write your guest column in the Tribune; I was in the country of ______ about _______ years ago for the _______ festival drinking _______ beer with my ______ friends.
This way you can save time while regurgitate the same old story again and again.
It would be nice to see creativeness from you Roger when you write, and not just use words that are uncommonly used, you are only impressing yourself which you're great at doing.
There are those who also enjoy Rogers eclectic writing style.
Comparisions with his lifes experiences, both home and abroad give the readers who actually ponder what they read, an insight to what makes him what he is, and has shaped his view points.
With out taking the time to consider the totality of what he is writing would be similar to viewing photographs of a rainbow in only black and white prints.
You know what it is supposed to be, you know there should be colors, but everything is lost in shades of gray.
Keep writing the way you are writing Roger, we may not always agree all the time, on everything, but the stories of your adventures are both home and abroad are informative and entertaining, especially for those who take the entire concept into consideration, not just the words that are typed.
The majority of thoughtful, honest people would agree that yes, conversations like ours are fruitless. One of us bears the burden of integrity, and the other mocks those who are willing to put their names on the line even when they're wrong or tactless, as I've certainly been in the past.
That's something you and other simply don't get. So be it. I'd have signed the Declaration. You'd have used a "Mad as Hell Colonial teabagger" tag. So be it. Posterity will judge, won't it? Especially when I'll be writing that historical record.
Now I'm off to a happy, productive day baiting more cowards. Peace, brother.
That was great Iamhooseir thank you for contributing.
Bluegill and lamhoosier
do you get instant emails to inform you when Roger is involved in a conversation on any blog?
Kind of like when Billy D. Williams summons that bald headed guy in The Empire Strikes back? Is it kind of like that?
Well, if it is not like that maybe you can add that to your key pad.
The C key could be; inform circle of jerk friends to back up my opinions on blogs and glorify me.
I would argue that if you knew my real name it would not make a bit of difference, or would it....?
If I put my name down do I get invited to the brew house for beers with the buds?
Because that is the only way I could see it making a difference, if you actually knew who I was in person, and not just a name on a screen.
I've tried to hangout at the New Albanian, but it always closes too early.
I was there at studios last Thursday when you tried to engage the council members at the table, I thought that was really lame.
I'm just a small fish in a small pond not a big fish in a small pond.
Now look who has his panties in a knot. Chill, FF. We just like to add a touch of "real human being" to the conversations here.
Come on down the BSB tonight and let's fondle a Wet Knob* together, whatcha say?
* progressive pint of beer brewed with locally grown hops
Actually, we are so evolved that our superior minds are constantly linked.
FF, I must admit that I'm intrigued with your clues. It adds an element of ineffable mystery to the proceedings.
Studio's was fun. We ask them not to lie, and they squirmed. What's not a down home hoot about that?
My only thing is by putting your name to what you say, you have to stand behind your statements, admit when your proven wrong, and be accountable when youre too reckless.
I'm sorry Roger I have to work tonight at the hospital, it kind of stinks since I've been working 3rds on the weekdays, it has taken away from my social life.
Seriously I wish you the best and hope your business continues to do well, you are integral to developing New Albany as a more progressive town. I hope your opinions on slum lords are carried through too. I'm certain there is a lot we agree upon.
Thanks
Chris
You need to quit whatever it is you are doing, take your savings and go travel. It is much more enjoyable to travel yourself then live vicariously through someone else who has already traveled.
It's a lot cheaper then you think too
Cheapflights.com
Couchsurfing.com
You could also just jump on the Monon and hobo it for awhile, and you don't have to be a smelly, alcoholic, degenerate.
Thanks for the offer, but I have to pass.
I have travelled, and rather extensively. I just chose to keep it on this side of the pond.
Thanks for the tips though, riding a rail car with hobos is definately an easier option that hiking the AT, or the boulevard, and thanks for your opinion.
Nice Chris the AT is very cool.
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