I am very disappointed after last night's council meeting. The first item on the agenda was the resolution for the $400,000 to help the flood victims of last August. Jason Hublar and his wife Crystal told of how not only their possessions but the school supplies they purchased for their students were lost. Not only that but they had to take out a loan to cover their loss.
My own brother-in-law and sister-in-law also will be forced to borrow to pay for the repairs to their furnace. I had assured them that the city would take care of them and secured the forms for them to complete and send to Shane Gibson. I have not talked to them yet but they subscribe to the Tribune so they will find out. They are both retired so money is tight, but oh well, that's the way it goes.
I want to thank Shane Gibson, Jeff Gahan, Pat McLaughlin and Dan Coffey for their efforts. These gentlemen spoke about the people who have been devastated by the flood. The rest of the council wanted a long term fix. Mr. Gibson wanted a long term fix also but he knows the people are hurting now. He wanted to reimburse the applicants for their loss and use the rest of the $400,000 for fixing the creeks and ditches. Made sense to me.
Also on the agenda was the request of an appropriation for $2,000,000 to fund the police and fire departments. It was decided to postpone the vote until there was more investigation.
The vacant Trinity Plaza building on the corner of Daisy Lane and Green Valley Rd. will be used as a furniture store for two years. The Planning Commission hopes that by that time a medical facility will replace the furniture store.
And last but not least the $300,000 loan from the Rainy Day Fund to the Storm Water Fund was passed. It was also decided that after three years the Storm Water Fund needs a audit.
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Thanks Shirley for the update.
Those citizens who were flooded should and could file a class action lawsuit against the city. The city has been knowing about this for well over two years. They will WIN because it is documented the England administrations has not fixed or abided by the Concent Degree.
$2 mill ion to police and fire is bs in my book.
The bylaws of the stormwater board states and audit to be done in three years.
Let's see how many hands have been in the Citizen's Cookie Jar.
Thanks for the report.
Hi everyone, I know there was a lot of "editorial comment" in my report of last night's meeting. But I never claimed to be inbiased.
I'd have been there, but I was busy sweeping the sidewalk.
Please, no non-German-language comments this time. Insults sound better auf Deutsch.
I am in no way trying to make light of the loss sustained from this freakish weather, however, it would be an excellent time for everyone to look into flood insurance.
Being at a higher elevation does not really protect you from this type of situation.
another call for an audit? gee whiz!
Thanks for the update.
Still can't figure why flooding victiims were not funded.... must be saving the money for additional constuction work to be done down at the bar on bank.
LOL
Myself, I think they need to open all the books up. Let's see what's in those fifteen accounts and where all our tax dollats are going.
How was Socrates an Iconoclast?
get a clue, jameson
I'm not sure about iconoclast, but that Socrates does a great version of Def Leppard's "Demolition Man."
(Dedicated to the HPC)
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Let me loose, I just got back
I was pushed and I got dragged
I tasted mud, I tasted wine
I've kissed the life I've left behind
So say I choose to stick around
I've got news for this here town
I kick the ball, I catch the bus
And raise the roof for all of us
Destination anywhere
So far gone, I'm almost there
Can't you see I can't deny
I'm out of here like I'm on fire
Living like a caged-up animal, criminal
Television newsman so subliminal
Bringing down the walls of wonderland
Just another highbrow cowboy telling me
Everything and everyone and all the things I ought to be
Here I am, your demolition man
It's quite obvious that we should ask a man from Kentuckiana who received his B.A. in Philosophy from Grant Line High in 1982 about Socrates.
If you have been to Europe and you live in New Albany you hear by know more than the bisschen leute of New Albany.
And you know how to make beer that gives you heart burn.
Roger, do you realize you are as narrow minded as Rush? Don't you see that?
Some people just don't want to live like a jack-ass.
Can't you accept that?
Gegähne.
Can't you accept that there is no credibility in anonymity?
I don't follow the Def Leppard comment.
You have made mention of Socrates and Iconoclastism in a recent column but my understanding of the Greek Socrates is not an Iconoclast. My understanding is quite the opposite.
“Yes, Phaedo,” he replied, “and how melancholy, if there be such a thing as truth or certainty or possibility of knowledge, that a man should have lighted upon some argument or other which at first seemed true and then turned out to be false, and instead of blaming himself and his own want of wit, because he is annoyed, should at last be too glad to transfer the blame from himself to arguments in the general: and forever afterwards should hate and revile them, and lose truth and the knowledge of realities.” Socrates
An iconoclast:
1. A breaker or destroyer of images, esp. those set up for religious veneration.
2. A person who attacks cherished beliefs, traditional institutions, etc., as being based on error or superstition.
Surely you recall the pretext for the hemlock?
Note: If I don't answer immediately, it's because I'm headed out of town, not because I'm ignoring you. I'll try to catch up later.
No, the hemlock was a pretext for what?
I know it was the poison that was drunk.
Have fun and be safe.
The pretext for the penalty of drinking hemlock was Socrates' violation of the previaling law, i.e., his habit of corrupting the morals of youth by questioning the foundations of Greek society.
That's firmly iconoclastic.
Thanks for the good wishes.
Yes, he was condemned to death but on false pretenses. Socrates was without blame, not making him an iconoclast.
"How you, O Athenians, have been affected by my accusers, I cannot tell; but I know that they almost made me forget who I was-sopersuasively did they speak; and yet they have hardly uttered a word of truth." Socrates
since insurance states flood damage not city fault then city should not be paying. open doors for future claims.
stormwater audit every year with city audit.
why don't you just ask me my name?
Then people will see that who I am is irrelevant to the discussions and topics brought before us, and you could no longer resort to anon calling to divert from the main points and critics.
You need anon people.
They are your excuse for everything.
Does anyone else see the irony in a know-it-all quoting Socrates?
"....since insurance states flood damage not city fault then city should not be paying. open doors for future claims".
????? Of course they denied the claims. That's what insurers do. Homes built in city limits flooded due to poor construction oversite, and altered terain that comes from over-development. The City is responsible and should pay. Fema, State ruled local gov't has the funds and it does not need assistance.
Rainy day funds are the tool to provide assistance and improvements to troubled private sites. It appears some council members prefer to extend perks to themselves rather than help tax payers in need. Gonder, Ceasar, Zurschmiede, Messer, Benedetti feather their own nests at the citizen's expense. What a scam.
City Attorney states action will not "open doors" for future claims.
No I don't know it all but thanks for thinking so. And yes I understand if the irony were correct.
When does asking questions and providing your thoughts equate to knowing it all?
Just a rhetorical question
why are the flooded homeowners asking for the city to bail them out? any homeowner can get an inexpensive rider to their existing policy that insures against sewer backup. they didn't get the insurance and now they want the taxpayer to pay for their mistake.
city is not responsible for those who do not carry adequate and proper insurance.
rainy day fund was not set up to assist individuals who are having a rainy day on their private sites. if so give me some!
Hey FOS, how about the ethics of telling lies about the Mayor?
A very special shout out Birthday Wish goes out to Diane today. From all her friends in the City County Building.
What a special day this is.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DI, HEARD YOU RECEIVED YOUR PILOT'S LICENSE TODAY.
YOU GO GIRL!
I think the entire England administration should be audited.
Merry Christmas Shirley and Happy Birthday Diane.
Ayone notice since the newalbanian is out of the country it's been very nice on here. Hmmm, maybe he should consider moving there.
Hey FOS, how about the ethics of telling lies about the Mayor?
I think the entire England administration should be audited.
They were, by the State Board of Accounts, and they found no ethical lapses. Have you forgotten already? Oh, I forgot, you only believe what you want to beleive.
Recnt slop from FOS:
Now we'd usually just ignore this sort of thing, but our Mayor's numbers are in the pits.
Gee Whiz Wally! I didn't know FOS's staff included a pollster. How much independent public opinion research does Professor Erik(a) do? Doesn't that interfer with Erik(a)'s teaching duties? How does (s)he find the time?
Hey FOS, we know you're all about efficincy and saving money, right? And we know that facts aren't that important. Just skip the expensive fake polls and stick to flat out cheap, unscienfitic, dishonest rumor spreading and making stuff up.
It's worked for you so far.
How do I join FOS? I look good in red T-shirts. I want to be one of the cool hipsters who sit in the back roll and heckle peopel trying to do thier job.
My house was flooded. I didn't get any type of insurance to pay for backed up sewer lines. I'm against high taxes and I'm for self responsibility EXCEPT for when it comes to MY basement being flooded. Instead of expecting me to get insurnace, I want the taxpayer to bail me out.
If you live in the west end and your house was flooded, then you can thank your councilman Dan Coffey. Coffey's fought every type of sewer improvement and long term sewer planning brought before the council and the redevelopment commission.
You get what you pay for.
Penny Wise, Pound Foolish!
I'm sure FOS has something bad to say about allowing 30 million additional Americans to obtain health insurance while lowering the budget deficit.
ENGLAND WILL RUN FOR REELECTION IN 2011.
I would like to comment on 1:28 posting. Come on fella, sell it to someone else. Deficit my ass. We are all screwed and we hope you are still buying Obama's "hope and change!" You must be thrilled shitless your tax dollars will pay for abortions.
"I think the entire England administration should be audited.
They were, by the State Board of Accounts, and they found no ethical lapses. Have you forgotten already? Oh, I forgot, you only believe what you want to beleive."
what report did you read? there was plenty wrong. i trust more from what i read from independent reports.
perhaphs you should brush up on your reading skills and take another look at it.
http://www.in.gov/sboa/WebReports/B34980.pdf
You must be thrilled shitless your tax dollars will pay for abortions.
Unfotunately for Republicans who want to scaremonger, the House and Senate bills contains no funding for abortions.
Get your facts straight!
perhaphs you should brush up on your reading skills and take another look at it.
perhaps you should brush up on your accounting skills. if you're so confident something is wrong, file a lawsuit. maybe you're afriad to. you prefer slander to careful research and truthfulness.
WHERE DOES PROF. ERIK TEACH?
We checks at all of the colleges in the region and no one has an Erik who teaches political science.
"perhaps you should brush up on your accounting skills. if you're so confident something is wrong, file a lawsuit. maybe you're afriad to. you prefer slander to careful research and truthfulness."
i'll trust the trained accountants of the accounting firm that did the audit. If you think what they reported was slander why don't you file a lawsuit against them. just what did they report that was slanderous and untrue.
now you going to give proof or just insert your foot in your mouth again and look sillly again
"You must be thrilled shitless your tax dollars will pay for abortions."
I know I am going to get burned down for posting, but since this is right up my alley, we have received some of that federal funding, and guess what, we are NOT required to provide abortions, nor are we required to provide infomation as to how a person can obtain an abortion.
A Family planning practitioner in the form of womens health, birth control, (pills, shots, implants), and condoms are the main benefits from that, this bill is providing for an expansion of those currently available funds.
Ms. Denhart has a talent. She should give classes on how to start a fake citizens movement.
"It's socialized medicine," said George H. W. Bush, speaking in 1964, referring to the bill to create Medicare.)
We've heard the scare tactics before.
Reading FOS's lately slop "REINDEER SPOTTED AT THE BANK STREET BREWHOUSE," I'm still scratching my head. Is this an attempt at humor? It's not funny. I love a good Roger joke if it makes me laugh. A lot of stuff on FOS makes me laugh because it's so ludicrous. But the Reindeer post was just stupid.
FOS must have a problem with capitalism. Capitalists believe that if something is priced too high, people won't buy it. Since Bank Street Brewhouse has plenty of customers and is selling kegs like wild in Indy and Louisville, it sounds like it's not priced too high.
Yeah, it costs more than BudLite, but it's better than BudLite, at least for those who buy it.
It's like complaining that a Mercedes costs more than a Yugo. Yes, Yugo's costs less and some people are just about having it cheap but some people prefer quality and value.
What is FOS's obsession with the price of Roger's beer?
The tacos at La Rosita costs more than the tacos at Taco Bell but no one fake Professors are sending anonymous hate mail to La Rosita.
The rocks at Endris costs more than the rocks you get at a local gravel pit. No one on here complains about Caesar's rock prices.
Professor Erik should stop bitching about the free market and let people buy the beer they are willing to pay for.
Seems to be a theme with them...too high.
Who will be the next council prez now that Coffey doesn't have support for another year?
FOS, how about the ethics of telling lies about the Mayor?
WHERE DOES PROF. ERIK TEACH?
S/HE is not a real person. Its a fake persona that Vicki Denhart made up.
Professor Erik for Mayor 2011!
Can't wait to see his face on a billboard!
If you only read FOS, you'd think everyone hated Roger. If everyone hated Roger, then why are his businesses doing so well? Bluegill and Randy aren't the only customers there.
you got to give the professor credit. she has been able to capture and maintain the attention of so many of you people. every time you post something about her you bring more attention to her and her message. when your post are mean spirited towards her, you actually give her even more credibility.
keep up your comments, i'm sure she appreciates you assisting her in reaching more people.
I personally though the (reindeer) on Freedom Of Speech was hilarious.
But then again I have a sense of humor unlike some of you.
..you actually give her even more credibility.
More than zero? I guess the only way you can go is up.
I do enjoy her Citizens Faux Accountability website. Not THAT'S funny!
Now that's funny!
It's pretty sad when you argue you have credability because you're the butt of jokes.
"I personally though the (reindeer) on Freedom Of Speech was hilarious."
It's good to know the joke writer enjoys her own jokes. Too bad no one else thought it was funny.
Next!
Merry Christmas & Happy New Years, Shirley.
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As seen in Proverbs 14:30 jealousy is compared to such a serious illiness. in James 4:5 states that humankind has a "tendency to envy" - an almost inborn inclination to become jealous of another. What causes this? It is simple - ego.
To live with such a destructive disease must be one of the most terrifying...
Jealousy is a disease get well soon.
Happy Holidays
Ms. Baird, what's wrong with acknowledging that someone has been convicted of a crime? Is this not a fact that a crime was committeed?
Why are all the lies and innuendo allowed to stay and but an absolute fact is deleted?
Because she never said she was Unbiased.
Siding with convicted criminals is not a good start.
Siding with people who lie about their identity is not a good start either.
I guess it's forbidden to acknowledge that Yvonne was convicted of a crime.
VOP, the land that facts forgot?
Several of your all comments are definitely cheaps shots and completely unwarranted.
"Several of your all comments are definitely cheaps shots and completely unwarranted."
Which ones?
Reindeer at Bank Street isn't warranted?
Jealousy is a disease get well soon.
How can you be jealous of a fake professor? It's like being jealous of the Eastern Bunny.
Eric/Erica/Vickie did not write the jokes. Like most of the non local things written they were plagerized from other websites.
Something that is seriously frowned upon in the world of academia.
I applaud are local Citizens For Accountability watchdog group.
Merry Christmas to All and Happy New Year. Be safe.
I applaud our local Citizens For Accountability for a hilarious website!
Happy Holidays!
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