Unfortunately, I was not able to attend the council meeting last night.
Will anyone who was there please give us the scoop?
thanks,
Shirley
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Short meeting.
Voted to "loan" the storm water board $300k @ 1% interest from the rainy day fund. This is to make the Castlewood retention project start earlier. Discussion concerned loaning the money or just going ahead and directly funding it from the rainy day fund. Vote was unanimous on readings 1 & 2.
A last minute addition to the agenda was $400k for the victims of this years flooding. Shane Gibson(who is also advising the Council for December)stated that the proper advertisement had not been done and this item should not be discussed until the 12-17 meeting.
There was vote to raise fees for the Fairview Cemetery. If I recall correctly, this was the 3rd vote with 8 ayes & 1 nay(Price).
An official with NA baseball league(little league,etc)spoke about the desire to move from Mt. Tabor to 60 acres behind Home Depot, Tuckers, etc. They have met with the county commissioners and will meet with county council tonight.
No fancy reporting from me, obviously. That's the basics and I withheld my commentary.
Thank you Mark, you did a great job.
Roger now has a more detailed report up on NAC.
Happy Birthday Freedom Of Speech. That was one hell of a posting today.
FOS is far from being "mean spirited" compared to things written on this blog.
Why loan money to the stormwater, when that is what the Rainyday Fund is for?
So are you telling me that Shane Ginson is sitting on as council attorney for free?
I seen just the other day when Gibson received $35,000 from the County.
"America elected a hustler from the mean streets of Chicago, via Africa."
kind and clearly racist words from FOS last week.
BTW, she works for the president Stop kissing Mrs. Clinton's ass she won't run for president again until Obama says she can.
Who first championed universal health care?
Who lived in Chicago first and longest?
ohhhh... vewy scawey! FOS is hitting the restaurants taking notes on what people are saying and we need to be careful....
Yeah, thats not mean spirited at all, calling people liars, etc...
FOS is pretty predictable. The author is hooked up through family ties to one Ms. Sipes, right? Doesn't that explain the leaked Linden medows info? Doesn't that explain the hatred of England, as a sipes run at the mayoral seat has been rumored? It's not about "the little people", it's about politics, just like everything else.
So England isn't a liar hmmm let's see how many lies he's told so far since being in office again.
1. He said, the non union people haven't had a raise in several years.
2. He said, that Roger Baylor is a nutcase and I need to shut him up.
3. He said, I'm 65 years old and the mayor and I don't need the council, to approve anything, I will do what I want.
4. 2008 was a hard difficult year, but I put the city in the black.
lies, lies and more lies.
So yes, I say DOS was very wise to call Mayor England a liar.
You rock, FOS, should keep up the great job they are doing!
Sorry about that Erik, my brain was working faster than my fingers.
Typo: FOS
I'm kind of embarrased that you read our trib anon. Calling our prez a half breed? Please, if you see my name on a byline pass it up, I don't want you reading anything I write. Judging by your comments, somebody probably has to read it to you anyway. Oh by the way, hspa named the trib newspaper of the year for it's category in the state. That makes twice in three years, so read whatever else you choose, it's your loss.
You'll want to be reading this Thursday as anti-intellectual tendencies in America are examined in the Tribune column that I know you ALL memorize every week.
LOL. Fire away, anonymites.
I don't know which is worse your blatant racist comments or your ignorance and defense of your racism.
Thanks to Ed Clere and the woman yesterday in the Tribune who called you out on your writings in the Tribune! More should do so.
You certainly do not impress me.
Thank you
ANONYMOUSLY YOURS
TIF the Field of Dreams, Carl!
We know you ran sewers for the Kelly project and it went belly up back behind Home Depot. Are the lines already in place and we simply NEED to say we need to run infrasture back there again?
Why do you choose not to replace the lines in the street? Hmmm
Daaaw. I don't know what I'll do with myself since I don't impress some old racist? My heart is just shattered, sniff sniff. Ok I'm over it.
Roger, is your readership down enough that you need to come and promote your column to abunch of anonymous people that you care less about?
It must be a proud day to call yourself an anonymous little person. Who wrote it? Virginia, Vickie, Larry? No way tell is there?
Yes, the letter writer came tantalizingly close to being grammatical, but not quite.
Allow me to rephrase that last one Anon.
DOn't like being called out on your own hypocrisy? Don't like it? I'm not hard to find if you would like to try and shut me up. Be sure to take your geritol and pack some extra depends.
oops I crapped my pants
IAMHOOSIER, I did not call myself a little person, YOU DID. I'm proud to be able to post anonymous comments on a blog who is not up certain people's *.
Thank you very much.
Who is calling who a racist?
Can't even pick that up from reading the postings. I agree though England has lied and you may tie it to his campaign promises. I do not know what others may be referring to.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I'm sorry, but "half breed" IS a racist term.
And, "little people" is a self imposed term by your own brethen--not me. I don't like the term.
Iamhoosier,
What's wrong with being one of the little people?
BTW, I'm damn proud of being one too.
You are a progressive so where is the beef?
Mr. Iamhoosier, I read your 9:02 comment and would like to respond. You seem to forget some people in New Albany have real jobs.
Glad you got your nifty crystal ball out, but hey, you were wrong again.
To Daniel S. as far as the newspaper winning awards,good for you. I say this. When you and your management starts printing the truth of the goings on in New Albany I will renew my subscription.
You print everything as gospel, that comes out of Doug's mouth. At least the C/J does do Investigative reporting.
Why don't you?
And what exactly constitutes a "real job"? If a person makes slightly above the median income, are they no longer a little person?
Are the little people only considered those with meaningless low wage jobs? If so is that not rather insulting, as if they need someone to speak for them?
On the tribune, because they do not print the same invective dicourse, are they then to be considered less viable, based on the opinion of a minority of political inactivists?
what have we printed that wasn't true? Also, what investigative stories has the cj done in floyd in the past year? Heck, I haven't even seen a new Albany hard news story beyond crime in the cj in a month.
I think you should ask that question of the people that label themselves little people. It wasn't Hoosier
I think the Tribune does a good job with what they have. Most people that I know feel the paper does a fine job reporting the news but they take issue with the editorials and some of the cheers and jeers from the editorial staff.
For myself I do wish that the editorials addressed more local issues but that's my opinion.
I can understand that, remember you can always submit your own cheers and jeers just email us.
Yes, I have been very please with the Tribune's willingness to print letters and comments. I wish I had more time and resources to write in more often.
You go girl!!!!!!!
We're all "Taxpayers."
None of us are billionairs or senators. Everyone in New Albany is pretty much equally "little" in big scheme of things.
Just calling yourself "taxpayer" or a "little person" doesn't make your ideas more right than those of other taxpayers.
I do have a real job. Have had since 1975.
And you totally missed the point of my 9:02 comment. I'll take the blame for poor communication. What I meant was, since so many of you wish to remain anonymous, you all have to bear the burden of such racist remarks.
Just peoples true colors (or intolerance to colors) showing through.
Anonymousness has obviously only replaced one hood with another.
Jeers to run-on sentences.
How do you know that any one particular person did or did not write "half breed"? You can't know, so share the blame or come out of hiding.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SUSAN JOHNSON, BOY DOES NEW ALBANY NEEDS YOU NOW.
If is a big word, in my book. What you need to be worrying about is that so called atheist writing for our local newspaper.
I applaud are local watchdog group.
I enjoy the anonymite who always prefixes "so called" to nouns.
I'm not so called. I actually am an atheist.
Anonymites advocating censorship ... next I suppose they'll be burning books, using illegal novelty lighters, of course. Make it stop before I bust a gut laughing.
Hitler was raised catholic Timothy mcveigh was a Christian Son of Sam was Jewish the 9/11 hijackers were Muslim Roger is an atheist.
Does any of this matter
anon 11:03 Try running a citizens group and working her hours and see how long you last. Iamhoosier and Christopher D. and you should get together and discuss 'factual stuff'.
Keep up the good fight Vicki, we won't let them tear you down. Keep working for the little people and keeping and eye on England and others.
See, there's that "little people" thing again. Wasn't me.
The name calling got to be a bit much so I did some deleting.
Funny, I never thought the term "little people" was an insult.
In New Albany it refers to working people and on TLC TV it refers to people of short stature.
So you delete comments pointing out racism on FOS but you left up a comment calling the president of the United States a half breed.
Brilliant
Anon 12/10 11:54
I missed that one, thanks for pointing it out.
Yes, I AM serious.
Shirley
I'll bite, so what's your point Roger.
Happy Birthday Susan.
The point: The use of "so called" is not necessary and detracts from anonymous's paltry two-syllable words.
The Tribune is located in New Albany and is our local paper. Again, where are your investigative journalism stories?
Have you looked at the books lately?
Happy Birthday Susan!
anon 12:31. I asked this yesterday and never got a response, what have we printed that wasn't true? And yes, I have looked at the books, reported on the audit before any blog or news outlet. Even more, I didn't assume to be a financial whiz so I called Charlie pride and got the details from him. Have you, or are you basing your comments on second hand info again?
He said she said we said. That's not how journalism works. I actually have to put my name beside what I write.
Happy Birthday Susan.
"anon 11:03 Try running a citizens group and working her hours and see how long you last. Iamhoosier and Christopher D. and you should get together and discuss 'factual stuff'.
Keep up the good fight Vicki, we won't let them tear you down. Keep working for the little people and keeping and eye on England and others.
"
Oh, I last plenty... Especially after working all the time, in 4 clinics actually making a difference in the daily lives of "the little people" as you would call them.
heres some facts for you to chew on:
*over 6000 uninsured/underinsured patient encounters taken care in jeff this fiscal year thus far
*3500 at floyd
*2750 at Harrison
*1500 at Ctown
* awarded federally qualified health center status at floyd as of 12-1-09 which will allow for an axpansion of services to those patients and the creation of several good paying, stable jobs
* completion of a state of the art patient education center for diabetes, nutrition, and financial education and counseling
* $99,560.00 per month average in medications to those patients who only have to pay $5 for 3 months worth of prescriptions.
* 8 long term service contracts with locally owned and operated business resulting in more job stability and money being put into our local economy
* over $150k worth of short term contracts with locally owned and operated business (again money staying in our local economy
* providing all that patient care to uninsured/underinsured patients at less than $120 per patient visit overhead. (Medical, dental, vision, and medication)
* Implantation of a comprehensive family planning program (no abortions before you go nutziod on me)
* networking with other non-profit care related foundations to ensure that we can work together to provided the highest level of physical, spiritual, and emotional care to those who are less fortunate.
Outside of "work"
* Hundreds of hours of volunteer time to "nature" issues, species counts, verification of endangered and threatened species
* donated hundreds of nearly world class photographs of interesting and rare species of flora and fauna to educational foundations, educational publications, non-profit nature based companies.
* repainted and repaired a home for person who could not afford to have the work done, and was not capable of doing it themselves.
And still manage to find time for my beautiful wife and daughter, and go to my daughters performances, practices, and help with her homework.
Sometimes it takes more than writing letters to editors and grandstanding with pre-written scripts at public meetings to make a positive impact on the lives of people, and it takes more than griping about taxes and fees to be committed to bettering the lives of people, and contributing to the local economy.
so when does Y.C. go to jail?
oops I mean Y.K.
i don't know when jail time begins. interesting to see how much things quiet down here when she leaves.
I applaud are local watchdog group.
Yes! Thank you to whoever put up the Citizens Faux Accountability site. You nailed it!
Don't worry Chris. When Hillary is president she will pass universal health care!!!
Chris,
All I can say is you sure are a busy person. We need more people like you.
As far as Hillary passing universal health care: when she was in NA (at the Southside) in 2008 she said she wanted legislation that would ensure that everyone in America had the same "Cadillac" insurance as Congress has.
If she would make universal health care happen I would be happy and so would Chris. The clinics would still be in operation.
Anon 3:13 PM
Actually, nothing could make me happier than having to find a new job because every American has access to affordable comprehensive healthcare.
On a tree hugging, dirt worshipping note, what kind of hoopla is it that we are considering destroying more of the knobs to put in a ball park?
Erosion, loss of habitat for animals, loss of probably a thousand trees, and more traffic on that stretch of State Street?
Nothing against youth sports, but come on, seriously?
911 calling the Potty Police.
Happy Birthday Mrs. Johnson.
So what's your title Christopher D?
Well, Mr. Drake. If you look back on the times you blog, you sure can't be that busy.
Btw, are you saying you went from an auxiliary officer to running 4 medical centers.
Here, I thought you were a doctor with all your medical opinions.
Bird watching must be fun!
Happy Birthday Susan,
Thanks for inspiring me.
"Well, Mr. Drake. If you look back on the times you blog, you sure can't be that busy.
Btw, are you saying you went from an auxiliary officer to running 4 medical centers.
Here, I thought you were a doctor with all your medical opinions.
Bird watching must be fun!"
Actually, I dont feel I "run" anything, I am part of a team of people who makes this happen.
When I was volunteering for the city as an Auxiliary Officer for nearly a decade, that was outside of my normal work and school.
As far as the Health Centers, My job duties are day to day operations of the centers, to do what needs to be done to keep the doors open, and the centers running efficiently and smoothly, and again I do not do it all myself.
We all work together as a team, from the CEO, the CFO, and me the COO, as well as the Medical Director, down to a volunteer who works 2 hours per week, a team, and no one is more important around here than anyone else, in my humble opinion. we are here for one reason and one reason only, patient care. Everything we do is done for just that, Patient Care.
As far as my "medical opinions" they are just that opinions, I do not claim to be, nor have a ever represented myself as being a medical doctor.
Once, many many moons ago, I was an NR-EMT A (advanced), QMA, and a few other initials.
The Auxiliary comes in to play in my work now by learning the values of team work, time management, emergency planning and reaction, facility security, and that all people are basically good people who may just be having a bad time in their life.
And lastly, bird watching, fun, not really, sitting in a cold wet depression in the middle of the woods for hours on end to get one photo of a feathered little chirp box can be boring as all hell!
Learning and watching the amazing diversity of nature we have here in our region, is very enlightening, each relies on the other in someway, and everything from the dung beetle all the way up to our local Apex preditor (the Bald Eagle) in some way or another are interconnected, and where we fit in to that, and our responsibility to be good stewards of the natural beauty that surrounds is rewarding.
But there is probably nothing more "rewarding" than to gain the trust of a little bird you can not communicate with enough to have him land on your shoulder or on your hand after spending weeks and months with them...
Someone definately has to much time on his hands and thinks he is an expert in everything. Poor insecure fella.
You bring up a good point Chris. Maybe the need for the new ball park is due to the loss of the one at Linden Meadows. I would be curious if there is a better place. Any suggestions?
Mark, just because someone posts as an anon doesn’t mean they speak for all anonymous people. If one individual calls themselves a progressive does that person assume all responsibility for progressives or when someone considers themselves to be a Christian do they speak for all Christians? No.
Benedetti goes to trial March 2.
She is guilty as hell.
Hey Girl, Happy Birthday.
Yeah, I know. Sewers aren't sexy enough to sell newspapers. Already been told that, LOL!
"Someone definately has to much time on his hands and thinks he is an expert in everything. Poor insecure fella"
Good one GC...
Actually, there is a point to be had here.
To TRULY be a positive advocacy for the community you have to be part of an open team, working towards one thing and one thing only, and that is the demographic in which one serves.
If a group is not willing to do such , then simply put, they are not a community advocacy, they are nothing more than a special interest group serving the interests of a few select members of the group.
REMCHAR:
Better location? Community park has large open feilds that could be used, or even claiming eminent domain on one of the failed and empty strip malls that burst forth everywhere in the 80's and now just serve as a hard surface to create more run off.
Do I think we have more important things to worry about outside of another sports complex, most certainly, but if its going to be done, lets not tear down more trees and greenspace, tear down some of the unused, ignored concrete jungle.
RemChar,
Exactly. I speak for Mark, who is generally a progressive. Roger speaks for Roger, who is a progressive. Jeff speaks...
That's the difference. We all may be "members" of certain groups, but we still speak and identify as individuals. If you are not willing to be an individual, well...
RemChar, when you get down to it, this anonymity thing is about honor and accountability. Your theory of "policy debate" has a bit of merit but how much policy do you really see discussed? The person who works for the city, may have a concern, but then only on city issues. When Chris's late father is brought into the discussion, when I'm lied about, when someone calls the President a half breed, when private citizens are attacked--where is the honor and accountability?
Why does ACCOUNTABILITY just go one way with some people?
Thanks Chris,Mark
"To TRULY be a positive advocacy for the community you have to be part of an open team, working towards one thing and one thing only, and that is the demographic in which one serves"
An open team is not one person who believes only their ideas and opinions are the right and best ones. That is TRULY just a self-absorbed person who is working towards one thing and one thing only, and that is an advocacy to serve only for his own insecure ego.
Sounds like this poor guy needs some accolades.
Good Job! Wonderful! You're so Smart! Go Christopher D!
(OMG Can you imagine having to work with him?)
Anon 12/11 3:20
I don't think Chris Drake was asking for "atta boy's" or accolades I think he was answering a question as to what he does all day.
A lot of us are very busy and involved with so many things we feel like we are trying to juggle 15 things a one time. And I think Chris is doing just that.
It's easy to get caught up in different projects, just volunteer for one organization and you will get plenty of invitations and/or requests for your time and talent.
I believe the reference was to how other ideas and opinions are never as good as his. Mostly counter others opinions and thoughts with what he says is a better way or idea. Amazing how his ideas and opinions are always better than others. Pysc 101 - insecurity
Pysc 101 - insecurity
Incorrectly spelled psychology ... and from an anonymous poster, no less.
It's just too funny.
Pysc 101 - insecurity
Incorrectly spelled psychology ... and from an anonymous poster, no less.
It's just too funny.
It's just too funny...some people will complain over a misspelled word just to be able to have their name seen.
"An open team is not one person who believes only their ideas and opinions are the right and best ones. That is TRULY just a self-absorbed person who is working towards one thing and one thing only, and that is an advocacy to serve only for his own insecure ego.
Sounds like this poor guy needs some accolades.
Good Job! Wonderful! You're so Smart! Go Christopher D!
(OMG Can you imagine having to work with him?)"
* I dont ask for anything in return for the work I do
* I work ONLY to serve thousands of medically disadvantaged people in our community
* As far as working with me, I work FOR my staff and my clients, and have an extremely low turn over rate.
* Most important aspect is me and my "self-absorbed person" self is this:
I would not turn you away if you needed help, despite how nasty you can be on here, and I would bend over backwards for you and your family to ensure they got the care they needed. I would not hide behind masks, or dog you out behind your back or anonymously on a forum.
I would treat you with respect, courtesy, and dignity from the moment you walked through our doors.
So if you think for one minute your little trifflinhg attempt at an insult will bother me more than causing a laugh, you are mistaken.
So one thing that I AM sure I am right about, as far as strength of Character, Honor, and a sense of caring for my community, I AM right when I say in those arenas, I am a better person than you could ever be, because I am humble, and I am grateful for the opportunity I have been given in this job, and other jobs I have doen in which I have been able to make a positive contribution to my community.
P.S. Shirley, Thank you, and I would like to invite you and your staff to our open house when things get wrapped up on construction and renovation.
anyone have a good margarita recipe the one I have is to strong?
Thanks Shirley and thanks to everyone else for the Happy Birthday wishes!!! Some I have talked to, but the rest of you please accept this comment as a BIG thank you. I've celebrated for two days. I was even back in New Albany for awhile, yesterday! I'm getting to the age where I've learned the importance of celebrating every blessed day God has given me and the people He has brought into my life. Thank you everyone!!!
"I am a better person than you could ever be.."
Well of course you are Chris. No one could ever be as good of a person or as humble of a person as you are.
any of you bullies ever sat down with him actually talked with him? you make it sound like hes some kind of monster you probably never even met him and only being mean since he can say he did stuff for people that helped. maybe your jealous. he seems nice to me and cares.
T
i have to agree with the others. i have talked to the dude and he is a know it all type but so are many other people here. he is definately not the type of dude one would be jealous of. an ok dude like most of the rest but nothing more.
A person ask the guy what he did, he answered. The inquirer then smacked the guy around for answering the question. the guy responded to that, so the person who originally asked what he did now calls him names and makes fun of him. Who in this situation is more insecure and egocentric,the guy who will openly answer questions or the jackass that will twist the guys words around? Any politician, activists, business leaders worth their salt is opinionated, somewhat outspoken. Thats how stuff gets done. Cant it just be left at that not villanize people? I will step back and just read again.
hammer, great idea. go back to reading. when chris d. gets back from bird watching he will have a five page rebuttal in which he himself will vilianize the writer.
I am not taking his part in this. But in all honesty you seem to be rather contrary to everyone you just sit there mad like an old wet hen in order to keep anything from getting solved. Sounds like your half a bubble off plumb. If the guy's out there staring at birds, sounds like he's looking to get away from the likes of you.
Folks could you refrain from using foul language? We all know there are a bunch of kids on this site.
Certainly there are more important things to discuss other than boring old me.
I had read where the little league officials had went to the county council asking for $6m from the local government to build this sports complex.
This during a time when we have such budget problems in both the city and the county?
I understand there is a need for area like this, but in this economic climate in the City/County Building, why is this even being entertained?
Also with work wrapping up today on 15th street, how many weeks will it stay fixed this time?
(By the way, the expected 5 page rebuttal, sorry to disappoint, but it’s not worth it)
"anyone have a good margarita recipe the one I have is to strong?"
Try this one:
Cuervo Perfect Margarita
Drink Recipe Ingredients:
1 oz. Cuervo Especial Gold (25 oz. per bottle)
3 oz. Jose Cuervo Lime Margarita
Mix
1 lime wedge
1 teaspoon(s) salt
Drink Recipe Preparation:
Rub rim of a chilled margarita glass with half a lime.
Dip into salt to coat.
In a shaker with ice, add Cuervo Especial Gold and Jose Cuervo Lime Margarita Mix.
Shake vigorously.
Strain into the margarita glass.
Garnish with lime wedge.
Thanks for the recipe I'll try
Charlemagne and now Charles the Hammer
I love it.
To weigh in don't justify crazy comments by answering to them Chris
Your comments on this blog speak louder than any ill attempts to spin them.
Your Friend
yea best to just keep your comments to yourself.
Why not entertain the idea of a little league sports center now instead of later? If you don't plan now for the future you end up staying in the past. Economic times are tough, but local governments are often in a better situation to assist in making these visions become a reality. Governments are able to obtain grants, low interest loans, and other financing options that are more favorable than those available to the private sector. This is not something that is going to happen overnight.
The YMCA started out as just a vision. From that vision a plan was developed and finally years later it became a reality. Many people were against the idea of a YMCA because of the cost. Thankfully there were those people who believed it could be achieved and did not stop until the goal was reached.
Anon 5:13
Excellent points and well put. The comparison with the Y is spot on.
What are your thoughts on the location? Considering State Street in that area is 4 lanes of bumper to bumper most mornings, afternoons and evening, do you think $4m will be enough for infrastructure improvement to that area to correct that with the added traffic during ball season?
Good morning everyone.
The Padget Museum is having their open house today. Come in and enjoy punch and cookies and see the beautifully decorated home.
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