I find myself in an unusual position. I am unable to come to a logical opinion about an important matter.
Although I did not attend the City Council meeting on July 6, I have read several other peoples' opinions about the EDIT funds being used to increase the number of police officers.
On one side, we all know the city has a crime problem. The officers say their numbers are too low to adequately enforce the laws and capture the criminals. The Mayor, the Police Chief and some members of the council agree that using EDIT funds is the answer.
On the other side, many citizens and some council members believe that the city cannot afford to use the EDIT funds at this time to hire more officers.
I can see the value of both sides of the argument, hence my inability to make a decision.
When I heard the officers speaking at the last council meeting last month I was upset and disappointed that they talked of moving out of New Albany because our city was not a safe place to raise their families. Isn't that their job? Aren't they supposed to "protect and serve"? Are those just words? They said that if we had more officers on the job New Albany would be safer and our crime level would go way down. Would they move back here if the crime level was reduced? Would using EDIT funds solve the problems?
Then I read on another blog about how we have 1.8 police officers per 1,000. That is considered adequate for a city of this size. Is the problem not the number of officers but that our officers are not as well trained as those of another city? Is the problem "quality" not "quantity"? Personally I don't think this is the case. I have a lot of respect for Chief Crabtree and I think he is doing the best he can with the number of officers he has to work with.
I guess we just need to figure out how to come up with the money to hire new officers, pave our streets, fix our sewers, etc., etc, etc. Maybe we citizens should each pitch in a dollar and buy 37,000 lottery tickets in the name of New Albany.
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The city of New Albany needs to live on a budget just like we do.
Is there a solution? Cut city employees, park police cars, stop spending money we don't have.
Councilman Price makes more sense than any of them do.
Why doesn't Zurschmiede explain why he stated in the newspaper he would vote NO and then Voted YES.
Was it a trade off with Coffey for his VOTE to be put on redevelopment?
Everyone knows all about cut a deal Dan.
Also, if the cops are afraid or scared to be on the streets, they need retrained or replaced. It's just that simple.
Just like the comment made by Houb: If you vote NO, (previous meeting), you have blood on your hands.
Good grief Louise, if I'd been on that council I would have stated, I don't have NO blood on my hands. So go sit down and think of a better excuse of a new fear tatic than this.
What a bunch of whinners they are.
Why should England act surprise or be frustrated? He's doing the same things he did when he was in office the last time. If my memory has not failed me, he's the one who orginally got us in trouble with EPA.
Am I right Yvonne?
Training is not the issue. Quality is not the issue.
Nor is Officer/citizen ratio.
While crime is indeed up in NA, as a rule it is up nation wide.
However, NA sits well below the national average for "violent crimes". We are plagued with "property crimes" far above the national average. (burglary, theft, vandlism, etc)
Is this tied to the increase in meth use/ manufacturing? possibly.
While obviously a strong supporter of our police, as I had stated on the "other blog", there simply has not yet been enough information made available to make an informed decision as to whether or not we NEED more officers.
We need to see average response times, time of day that the most runs occur, and the nature of the runs.
If it is buglary, theft, etc, that is the worst problem in the city, then I would support hiring additional ETU officers to assist Officer Fudge in collecting evidence to help put the perps away.
If 2nd shift has the most runs, and first shift has the least, I would say shift some officers from 1st to 2nd, or create more swing shift officers that split shifts for more coverage during peak hours.
Take the EDIT money away from senseless sewer rate subsidies and permit the police to have the money (and the year) they think it will take to show results.
You can't just DECLARE the number 1.8 adequate. First, it isn't true. Any idiot can see it's not adequate.
What is buglary?
9:43
Are we to all assume you have never made a typing error?
Jesus, is that you?
Who is Houb?
You can't just DECLARE the number 1.8 adequate. First, it isn't true. Any idiot can see it's not adequate.
I agree. But can a reasonable, thoughtful person see that it's inadequate?
Talk data to me.
The city of New Albany needs to live on a budget just like we do.
Is there a solution? Cut city employees, park police cars, stop spending money we don't have.
I'm going to guess that this was written by a smart professor of political science....(wink)
I thought someone fixed this broken record?
OK, OK, OK, we get it. You don't like government spending, Erika. BUT, the un-professor has failed to tell us how much government spending IS OK? How many cops is the correct number, in the professor's educated and well thought out, unhumble opinion?
Are two police officers too many?
Is it OK to never fix a sewer problem?
Citizens for B.S whine, whine, whine, whine, whine that we're spending too darn much. However, they never tell us how they plan to fill a pothole or keep a meth addict from breaking into my house.
I know, I know....you'll tell us when you're darn ready. When you release the tapes and the CIA raids England's office.
I'm tired of this sitcom. I'm ready for something more real, like cartoons.
SIMPLE ANSWER TO POLICE PROBLEM.....
THE MAJORITY OF OUR "PAID" POLICE OFFICERS DO NOT LIVE IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. IT WAS QUOTED THAT ONLY 19 OF OUR 65 POLICE OFFICERS LIVE IN NEW ALBANY.
SIMPLE ANSWER.... REQUIRE ALL NA POLICE OFFICERS TO BE NEW ALBANY RESIDENTS.
THE VISIBILITY OF MORE POLICE IN THE CITY 24 HOURS PER DAY COULD HELP CUT DOWN CRIME.
Comment 1:58 PM. You are right.
The New Albany Police cars should not leave the city limits. That expense should be helping cut down city crime.
Chief Haub said that the police cars have so many miles on them and we need to buy more new cars.
It is a shame that Chief Haub cannot figure out what is causing those car miles to pile up.
CHIEF HAUB-- OUR NA POLICE CARS THAT DRIVE TO CRAWFORD COUNTY, HARRISON COUNTY, WASHINGTON COUNTY AND FLOYD COUNTY ARE CAUSING THE MILES TO PILE UP.
OH YES-- WE FORGOT-- THE POLICE USE OUR POLICE CARS AND GAS FOR PERSONAL USE, TO.
"The New Albany Police cars should not leave the city limits. That expense should be helping cut down city crime" Police cars leaving the city limits is adding to the crime rate huh? The Bbog mentioned Police, so lets the anon mob start the attacks and screams of evidence that the entire police department is under investigation from the CIA, FBI, DHS, NSA, NAACP, ACLU, CFA, FOS, BS, SOB.....
Professor Eric knows that is post an untruth enough times it eventually becomes true, especially if you post multiple times anonymously and make vague accusations against anyone who questions you.
From FOS:
Good God, why do Canadians, Brits and others from all over the world come to the US for healthcare?
Yes, they come here for elective procedures like nose jobs and breast implants. Brits and Canadians, by strong majorities, favor their health care systems. They’ve tried their systems and have chosen not to go back to a system like ours. Not only do they have lower cost, but their people are healthier. They have better outcomes.
More evidence that “Professor Erick” (the unprofessor) is a pawn for health insurance companies who use scare tactics.
RE: Requiring the police officers to live in New Albany. That used to be a rule but it was changed because it was "unconstitutional".
It was also stated at the June council meeting that 15% of the people commit 85% of the crimes and they are not intimidated by the sight of a police car. So therefore marked cars are not a crime deterrent in New Albany.
Kind of defeats the purpose of take home cars, doesn't it. The police say they need their cars at all times so they can respond to an emergency with all of their equipment handy.
Shirley,
I will not relate the entire story again, but Sgt. Helm and Sgt. Drake's shoot out fiasco at the state street store when they walked in on a robbery after the end of their shift was a big catalyst for take home cars in the early 80s.
They had no radios, no extra equipment, no back up. They got lucky.
Russ Witt being shot by the man who had just murdered his wife at Tommys is a PRIME example of why we need these take home cars.
(also think of Denzinger and White, Officer Price of the NAPD when he was shot, the massive flooding in the late 90's when evacs were required, the list goes on)
There are more arguments that support the need for take home cars, than there are against them.
Hands down, it is far better to have the cars, and the equipment issued to each officer, than it is to have a fleet of cars running 24/7/365.
How many bars in New Albany has Mayor England been carried out of, and never arrested for public intoxications? Again, a double standard here in New Albany.
Let go of the past Mr.D. or get some help.
Denzinger was dead Chris. We did not shoot him. Have 5,000 cops there would not have changed a thing.
btw: I wonder why Messer wouldn't answer Price's question, when he asked, which officer is eatting breakfast at the firehouse. If the shoe fits wear it.
Gee Louise
That reminds me - we're having a photo caption contest over at NAC. Subject to the usual posting guidelines (sorry, all three of you anonymous dudes and RemCha), pick the winning caption and get a Progressive Pint.
Thanks, deity blessings, etc.
http://cityofnewalbany.blogspot.com/2009/07/caption-contest-what-otis-said.html
3:53, glad to see you finally take a position of a NO take home car policy.
I bet Price could find all kind of money if England opened up the books.
Hows business Roger? I hear your not doing well. Is that why your wife is working two jobs now? She seems to think it was a mistake yo open your Bank Street location. Her words, not mine.
Roger, if Councilman Price is doing such a lousy job, why don't you run against him? Oh that's right, your to busy flapping your gums instead of taking him on. But then again, you hide behind your computer an attack him, for telling the truth.
I'm working something like six jobs myself. Two breweries, three publications and IUS pay me a few bucks here and there.
Then there's the million dollars given me by the Garner administration, or so some anonymous person said on a blog. But heck, I'm kinda like Sam Walton, and just drive by '85 Ford around, ride a bike or walk.
It looks like we'll be brewing downtown next week, so we'll have a better idea of how things are going during the 3rd quarter. So far, business in front has been about what we thought it would be.
I'm sorry -- did you have a question, or just come here to make up stories about conversations you didn't have?
When the missus makes it home from her only job, I'll ask her if anyone wearing a Rally's sack spoke to her today.
"Roger, if Councilman Price is doing such a lousy job, why don't you run against him? Oh that's right, your to busy flapping your gums instead of taking him on. But then again, you hide behind your computer an attack him, for telling the truth."
You know my name. You're anonymous. And I'm the one hiding?
Didn't pass Irony 101, eh?
How I choose to facilitate the process of Mayberry Steve's defeat may or may not include running against him. There are other ways to skin a cat ... or bounce the incumbent. First there's that little matter of redistricting, which may be coming back on the front burner from what I'm told.
"Hows business Roger? I hear your not doing well."
Roger,
Can you tell me when business is slow at Bank Street? The food is great and the quality brew has converted me from a virtual non-drinker to a budding connoisseur. My only complaint is that sometimes it’s impossible to find a seat at the packed bar.
Dan
I would like to throw out a question. If we have problems with crowding in our current jail and it will be a few years before any jail expansion, where would we put all these criminals?
Another officer there stated that they can arrest all of the criminals but new ones will return to the troubled areas.
If his statement was true what is the point to invest in more police?
Would it not be better to invest in a strategy to get rid of the troubled areas?
Here is another one. Officer Haub stated that the NAPD has failed the people of New Albany, with regards only to the department, why should New Albany continue to invest into a fail system, would it not be better to invest in a new strategy?
Along a similar vein, I'd like to know when people will start to take notice of the continued slumming of New Albany. I came back from vacation to find a neighbor was blocked into their garage by a slumlord that allowed his old tenants, that were evicted, to throw ALL of their household into the alley between Culbertson and Ekin near Silver St. This has created an impassible area and unfortunately, nothing seems to be done.
I called the Street Dept and Ms. Versie took my info and said she'd let them know. Called Dispatch at police to see if there could be a citation written. Helpful volunteer said he felt getting a Traffic officer (the street crew one) would be good. I found him and flagged him down and told him of the situation. He told me, "What do you want me to do about it?" Hello!!!! Called the Mayor's office to find out where Code Enforcement officer is - vacation. I guess we dont have the 2nd one yet. Spoke to Sheryl (sp), who was very understanding and she got ahold of Mickey in the St Dept. He told her he didn't have the manpower to go over there with the paving and still cleaning up yard waste that was on the list before. He and Dennis Smith, the same one that asked me "What do you want me to do?" drove by and they said they could get their car & truck through there. Um, I couldn't get my car through the mess w/out worrying that I was going to scrape the sides.
I spoke to the neighbors that border it and they said that it's been that way for a couple of days. I know that people are tired of having lawn debris stacked up in their yards, others about having rotting food, furniture and kids toys, etc, but we need to prioritize. I know that it's ulitmately the landlord's responsibility, but again, this is one of those innocuous ones that we can't seem to pin down. We need this cleaned up and fast. We need to get the City Council to get their rental registration committee up and running. I went to one of the meetings and haven't seen or heard anything yet. What about the new law that "prevents property owners that have enforcement orders against them from buying more property." CJ today. This property and several in problematic areas are owned by the same group with three addresses.
I want my tax dollars spent wisely, and with the current display of "What do you want ME to do about it." I'll make it real easy. I want you to do your job and earn the money you get. Also, it's interesting that the garbage truck could only make it through the alley by running over a trash can that was part of the pile, sending shards of glass everywhere.
Shirley, I apologize for my rant, but I am tired. I want to live someplace where my family will visit and I can take pride in and I am worn out.
If you want what you ask for Vicky then the city would have to buy back the "slumlord" property.
A comprehensive plan to rehabilitate such property and return them into middle-income signal-family residence would be needed.
Nothing else will have a permanent change.
#1 "Let go of the past Mr.D. or get some help."
I'm fine thanks, no help needed, and the past is directly related to the reason we have the take home cars now.
(perhaps your so venomous to me 'cause you're the offspring of the guy whom had his face blown off by a .357 magnum that night by my dear old dad.)
#2 "Denzinger was dead Chris.---. Have 5,000 cops there would not have changed a thing."
True, Frank Denzinger laid his life down as a law enforcement officer, but Joel White is ALIVE, Would the outcome still be that if officers had to respond to the headquarters to pick up an line car before going on a man hunter for a coward sniping people from a window behind a curtain?
(however it seems acceptable in certain social circles in this town to take shots at people hiding behind a curtain, huh anonymous horde?)
All I have to say about this issue would be to mention the Cozart family and the Tribune article about the lack of justice within the criminal justice system.
If the police want to drive their cars out of town, keep the mileage and reach an agreement within your contract for a specified reimbursement of the gasoline; nothing more, nothing less.
Thank you Shirley.
GET READY NEW ALBANY, YOU ARE ABOUT TO SEE THE BIGGEST "WE THE PEOPLE MOVEMENT EVER IN NEW ALBANY.
I for one have never doubted your peopleness.
THERES GONNA BE A MOVEMENT ALL RIGHT. THE BIGGEST BOWEL MOVEMENT OF BS EVER SEEN IN NEW ALBANY.
In that case, FOS had best be stocking up on Dependz.
For those who keep SHOUTING about requiring officers to live in New Albany, it is my understanding that it is State law that prevents New Albany from doing that.
So, instead of complaining to the city, SHOUT at your state legislators instead.
Too funny. With Blovschak as our leader, what can go wrong.
Mark, If the council can ignore the US Constitution, then why can’t they ignore the Indiana Codes?
YES! THE TIME FOR ACTION IS AT HAND
YES! WE WILL RISE UP ABOVE THE CRIMINALITY OF THE OPPRESSIVE GOVERNMENT OF THIS TOWN
I WRITE FOR YOU NOW THE RALLYING CRY FOR THE LITTLE PEOPLE TO RISE ABOVE THE DIN OF THE BARS, AND EATERIES SERVING UP SUCCESS UN THIS OUR TOWN THAT MUST REMAIN ISOLATED, BACKWARDS AND FOLLOW THE LEADER THAT WE HAVE IN PRICE!
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN AS YOUR PROFFESSOR OF POLYWOG SCIENCE I ORATE TO YOU THE CALL TO WE THE PEOPLE TO HAVE OUR MOVEMENT ON THE STEPS OF THE CASTLE ENGLAND:
Let every business know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
The world will little note nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what we the people will do here. It is for us the living rather to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced.
Two thousand years ago the proudest boast was "civis Romanus sum."
Today, in the world of freedom, the proudest boast is "Ich bin eine der kleinen Leute."
You will bring about the destruction of the mayoral war machine, the elimination of police tyranny over the oppressed peoples of New New Albany, and security for ourselves in a free world.
Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well equipped, and battle-hardened. He will fight savagely.
we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion - that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation under God shall have a new birth freedom, and that government of the little people, by the little people, for the little people shall not perish from the earth!
* I wrote that, don't you like it?
You know me.
You know someine who knows me.
You know someone who knows someone who knows me.
And because I believe there is now a great need for everyone to get involved in the future of our city.
Finally, before I begin, please note that my introduction is a bit long and I hope you read on.
I believe as rate payers from our bought and paid for local government intent on waging war and messing with our familys, friends and neighbors.
Local government is trying to run us little people out of town, by increasing fees.
The line I am drawing in the sand Mayor England, you are about to see "We the People" up close and personal.
Power to the citizens, because we've had enough!
Here's to the hope that our anonymous class warrior will save a couple of Molotov cocktails for the slumlord down the street.
If you have to travel to Ft. Lauderdale to find him/it, then it's a win-win for all of us.
DO NOT FRET, DO NOT FAULTER, DO NOT BACK DOWN!
DO NOT LISTEN TO THE BAYLORITES, FOR THEY ARE A GODLESS PEOPLE, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT BAYLORS CORPORATION OF ATHEISM IS A NON-PROPHET ORGANIZATION!
WE THE PEOPLE WILL STORM THE ENGLAND CASTLE!
I KNOW YOU KNOW ME
AND I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW ME
AND YOU KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW ME
YOU KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT I KNOW YOU KNOW ME, AND YOU KNOW IT!
*The reason I talk to myself is that I'm the only one whose answers I accept.
Free Bird! Free Bird!
I am not trying to start another fight, Im simply making an curious observation:
The anonymous posters who always cite freedom, the Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc, and how precious these rights are, and how it is their right to say what they want when they want it, and how they are fighting for the people with out a voice, blah blah blah,
Yet with the precious gift of freedom of speech, they never choose to say who they are.
This to me seems hypocritical. I appeal again to the propaganda machine, put your name to the page, and show us what you have, if your assertions are true, with the evidence to back it up, then people will listen.
But until then, you are just viewed as a lonely troll.
Christopher,
Why do you mistakenly assume we want to be intellectually honest and unhypocritical? Obviously you have learned nothing about Freedom of Speech!
Brad,
Citizens for Accountability
I’m for Freedom of Speech, and Freedom from High Taxes,
I’m for Freedom to rent a slum apartment and Freedom to not be harassed by police when I throw trash out of my car window.
I’m for the Freedom to Speech and not be held accountability for my words!
I’m for the Freedom to slander the Mayor and to make stuff up whenever I please!
I’m for the Freedom to be a college professor whether or not I ever sent to school!
LONG LIVE FREEDOM!!!!!
LONG LIVE THE SMURFS, MUNCHKINS AND OTHER ALL OTHER LITTLE PEOPLE!!!!
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Back to the sewer issue and the Grant Line Road Lift Station...the City is required by the EPA to have an emergency generator and alarm bells to kick in case of problems.
EMC was hired to "manage" the system. The Sewer Board and Clark-Deitz determine the work to be done. If I am not mistaken, this work needed to be done so the Industrial Park could be enlarged.
The Sewer Board and the Contractor and Clark-Dietz, in my opinion, would be responsible for this mishap. It is so strange how this didn't happen the day it rained; it's almost as if the sewage was being held somewhere while work was going on and then let loose and up it came in people's basements.
If any citizens have pictures of the Lift overflowing they need to be turned over to the EPA.
Our "new plant" is suppose to handle at least four inches of rain; but as the EPA said "the plant looks great, now if you can just get the sewage there."
Can someone tell me if they bought the new police cars out of the sewer department or are claims needing perusal to find out?
The City keeps "borrowing" monies from the Sewer just to keep the General Fund somewhat afloat.
We don't need another rate hike. People can't afford any more rate hikes.
And, before you let loose New Albanian, you have to have an infrastructure in place before new development can continue. The City knows this, the EPA knows this and a lot of citizens knows this.
Personally, we are tired of the "slush" fund being used for anything BUT fixing the sewers.
Anyway, find out which contractor received the award of the bid to fix the Grant Line Lift Station and look to the Sewer Board and Clark-Dietz for remedy as I am aware some citizens have retained lawyers.
There is a tremendous fine in store for us if the Grant Line Lift Station has ONE DROP of sewage hit the ground. Unfortunately the Clean Water Act doesn't seem to cover basements, only if it hits the ground.
If you walk over and look at the Lift, there will be evidence of the overflow and pix's need to be taken.
I feel some of the "know it alls" needs to read the Consent Decree and just HOW MUCH MORE MONIES this could cost the City. The amount will be staggering and more than we can afford.
Remember, EMC manages the plant and system, the sewer board and Clark Dietz determine the work to be done (EMC DOES NOT DO IT) and which Contractor got the bid.
Hope this helps someone!
Thank you Shirley for your blog.
"Personally, we are tired of the "slush" fund being used for anything BUT fixing the sewers."
Glad to hear it. I agree. The sewers need to pay their own way and not anybody else's way. And we need to make sure that no more EDIT funds are used to keep the sewer rates low.
See, it's not so hard to agree.
3:18 Great job! Maybe the progressives will get their head out of England's a**, and realize without sewers fixed nothing, and I mean nothing can move forward.
IAMHOOSIER:
Not 2 sure we do agree. Reading documents and pledges made to the EPA involve a percentage of EDIT funds. These agreements were made from the City to the EPA, not between the citizens and the EPA.
Do you realize when our current Mayor, no disrespect here towards same, bought suits out of the sewer funds? This is one reason I suggested the sewer department claims may need to be perused in order to ascertain where the monies ARE GOING and to see why we can not sustain the rates as are.
I appreciate the nice tone in having a conversation.
BTW, the EPA holds US responsible for paying the fines and do you know why? Because WE ELECTED THE PEOPLE MAKING THE DECISIONS. That is a Federal Judge's ruling, BTW.
Also, the suit situation happened a long time ago during last service and resolved. Thank you for letting me clarify things before they get blown all out of proportion, LOL, LOL...
Do they have the Internet in prison?
"Do they have the Internet in prison?"
Well I guess the word is finally out now? The Dept of Justice is bringing criminal charges against all those who have violated the Consent Decree between New Albany and the DOJ because of violations of the Clean Water Act.
Welcome back, Yvonne. Do you have to bring your own towels? I think if we change the zoning classification of jail, we can restore the Holy Roman Empire.
I guess this points out one reason I like to be anonymous. I feel the discussions should be about the topics. So much to say: EDIT, Sewers, Storm Water, Consent Decree, EPA, Dept of Justice, Planning and Zoning, Health and Safety of ALL citizens.
Who is going to teach the history lessons or does it all have to happen all over again?
Susan
You are so right, Susan, we need to stay on the topic and quit picking on each other. Thank you for writing, you always have such good information and insight.
If Yvonne is posting, thank you for your comments. Sorry about the crude remarks.
I honestly cannot see how having more police officers will change the crime in New Albany. When I drive through downtown New Albany now I always think to myself how many police officers there are already.
Where is this New Albany crime epidemic? I don't recall turning on the news or reading in the paper about murders in New Albany. Yes peoples personal property gets stolen, you do have to be more careful if you are going to live in New Albany.
Why is it so easy for a small town government to scare it's population into believing that crime is a major problem?
I don't have enough information to tell you all where the EDIT funds should go, but I feel that it's not to the police department for sure.
Some people posting on this blog are nothing but mean spirited. To many Chiefs and not enough Indians. Go look at NAC it's the same opinionated people, they refuse to stop attacking everyone, just because they don't agree and that's sad. Prople are struggling now, our country and city is at an impass. A REVOLUTION is brewing, just watch and see.
Did I read this right? A facebook fan page for this blog? Cool. It's forward thinking like this that will propel revolution to iale number one at Wal-Mart.
Not that it matters much, but I have been giving it some thought, and I am sure I will be slapped around for this.
I strongly feel that we should hire more Evidence Technicians to try and process some of these break ins and thefts. (strongly feel the increase in theft is related to the increase in drug use/manufacturing)
Arresting career criminals only takes them off the street for a short time. (as someone mentioned, think Cozart's, etc.)
This is a situation where an ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure.
Instead of hiring a slew of officers to lock these guys up, who will be back on the street before the officer is done with the paper work, we as a city need to concentrate on crime prevention, and intervention with our troubled youth.
expansion and actual utilization of nieghborhood watch programs, district representatives in the city council having meetings with residents to find out what areas are hit the hardest and what times it occurs, and then put some of those bikes the NAPD has to use in targeted areas at targeted times.
Couple that with less "deals" in the prosecutors office (do the crime, do the time), and work on striking a deal with the FCSD and community corrections to go ahead an implement a clean up program with offenders doing the work.
Most of the offenders wear an arrest like a badge of honor, and they KNOW th epunishment is likely to be probation and a week end in jail.
This is OUR city, not the thugs, and we need to fight back, and though I strongly support our PD, I feel this is not a solution that can be solved with more officers.
It has to be solved with OUR involvement, OUR dedication, and our usage of the elected representatives in the city government being pressured to make the steps to bring about change through prevention, not reaction.
to 7:29
Everybody wants to be Charlemagne but there is only one. The true RememberCharlemagne talks issues not about people.
P.S. Charlemagne was prior to the Holy Roman Empire.
He unified a fractured Europe.
5:29,
Obviously, if EDIT is mandated by the bond structure(which I've heard rumored)or an agreement with the EPA(as you wrote), then we have no choice until those agreements are finished. So I would agree.
Can we agree that entities like sewers and garbage/trash should pay their own way through user fees? And that the funds the entities raise should remain with them? At least from now on or when any existing agreement ends.
I noticed that 4:58 was less enthused about having a conversation. "Progressives" have long said that the sewers need to pay their own way and "sticky fingers" need to stay out it. I remember Donnie Blevins(not particularly a friend of the progressives)shouting out at a council meeting, "We need to bring the sewers back in house. They were the biggest cash cow that we ever had!"
RemChar,
I agree that the actions of 7:29 are regrettable. There's no need to do that. It's even worse than anonymity.
Also, and I don't mean this in any way but informative, that's one of the reasons Roger requires identity to be revealed to him.
Mark
Why are we paving when we have well over $23 million in sewer and stormwater repairs to make? Why did England pave upper Spring Street first? I syopped and asked and the workers said they had not even repaired the drainage of that area. They were told to pave it all.
Not smart, Mayor England, since there are worse streets left to be paved.
The solution to New Albany's overflows is not to bypass, but to fix sewer system. We need that $1 million to fix our sewers.
Thanks Mark,
I understand Roger's reasoning for integrity.
What I have trouble with is if anonymity is with Roger and no one else it contradicts his reasoning.
I can write anonymously if no one else knows who I am but Roger?
I can be obnoxious as long as Roger knows who I am?
If his desire is to have a standard of integrity for his blog and his blog not be a place of slander then he needs to state those standards and enforce them with his administrative ability.
Being anonymous doesn't interfere with that ability.
Being anonymous along with a high standard for a desire to talk about issues has its advantages by allowing only the issue to be presented but when the author is known the discussion can quickly turn to personal attacks.
If Rodger desires to personally attack people he may want to change the name from NA Confidential to NA Tabloid it would clear up any contradiction.
That's my opinion on the matter its Roger's blog and I'm not on it.
If even one person(Roger in this instance)knows who the posters are, they are much more likely to behave responsibly. It's human nature.
Cuts way down on theft(like your screename), slander, and such. People are more likely to stop and think before they throw out wild accusations. It helps with keeping the communication somewhat civil. (please note "somewhat"vbg)
I know you don't want to believe that he keeps it to himself. I've told you that in my experience he does. I used to go at it pretty hot and heavy with Healthblogger before he "came out". Roger, knew who he was. I had many a conversation with Roger about Healthblogger and he never said a word about him being Dr. Dan.
You don't believe me. You seem to have a need to believe that there is some diabolical plan. I'm telling you, there isn't. There is nothing more that I can do about that.
One last thing before I go. Do you really want to associate with commenter's who say things like, "The Mayor is a crook and he is stealing us blind everyday" and won't put their name to it? Roger's blog is not perfect but his rule does pretty much eliminate that kind of crap. Look at it as a trade off, if you will.
Have a good weekend.
Mark
Um, I'm pretty sure Roger who said I will not reveal anyone's identity went above and beyond to try and accuse an individual of being who he thought they were, someone who wished to be anonymous.
Where's the integrity?
I will not reveal peoples identity, only when I want to, and for what reason? Is it a power trip?
I know Roger has said before that rememberchar was obsessed with him. If rememberchar is obsessed with Roger, then Roger must be something close to fatal attraction. There are at least 3 blog entries on NA confidential about rememberchar, and who he might be. And, no one really gave a crap because there aren't any replies.
Is it starting to sink in why anonymity is important guys?
Can you at least understand why there is a reason for anonymity?
Our city should work through it's substanial backlog of high-priority sewer repairs, starting with those parts of the city where citizens suffer repeated damanage for their health or property from sewage backflows, when whole blocks like Castlewood anf Farmgate neighborhoods are flooded during the same event, the problem lies with the city's sewer system.
Where an inspection shows city responsibility for flooding or sewage over flows, the city should quickly and effectively repair the sewer lines and add backflow devices to prevent sewer contents from backing up.
England does not have a quick-turnaround maintence and repair program that is responsive to citizens complaints.
Why?
He's using sewer money for the street department, raises and every nickel he can get his hands on for other things.
Every New Albany neighborhood must be able to rely on a functioning, effective sewer system that will prevent properties from unnecessary damange.
Just think how many sewer pipes and over flows can be fixed for $1,000,000.00.
Ask those eleven families who lost everything what they want, ten new officers and two CSI or their sewers fixed.
I'd betcha they'd all say fix my frigg'n sewers.
5:53 the mayor is a crook, who are you trying to convince he's not, yourself or us? Don't forget Roger's favorite Kool-Aid is grape, you must be drinking it too.
Roger, you're the only person here being propelled to aisle number one at Walmart to buy more pork rinds and bbq chips to go with your beer.
All good points.
Yawn.
Walmart's new font is breathtaking, though.
Not.
8:44,
You need not refer to the time of my comments. Iamhoosier is my screen name and my real name is Mark. I don't hide behind a "time stamp."
By the way, where is your proof? I don't remember defending the Mayor. Could you point that out to me? I was referring to cowards who make accusations and have no proof. If you have the proof, I could possibly even make allowances for anonymity for your protection. Otherwise you are nothing more than a braying donkey with a bag over your head.
If that's too hard for you to understand, try this. Put up or shut up.
Mark,
Do you know what malfeasance and misfeasance is? Look up IC (code) and figure out what England is doing.
Have you heard what Mayor England is telling citizens? And I quote: I'm 64 years old and the Mayor. I can do what and when I want to do it.
Pure arrogants on his part.
Like someone on here posted: the bigger they are the harder and faster they fall.
The line has been drawn in the sand, lets see who WINS.
6:08,
Uh, there is a big difference.
Speculating is when you have not been directly told who someone is. There is no promise given because nothing was given in return.
I write so poorly. Let me try this. Roger has never promised not to speculate. The promise is given to those who reveal their identity to him. And no one has to even do that. Only if they wish to post on his blog.
There is a big difference between criminal conduct and arrogance.
Yes, I have a basic understanding of the terms. Where's the beef, er, proof? Oh yeah, you'll reveal it when you are darn good and ready. Sorry, I forgot.
Are the codes located anywhere near the laws about property tax abatement's?
I could care less who you are, but if you have a good point I'd like to read and understand it.
Nonsense comments by anonymous people is annoying.
Comments by people who want everyone to know who they are and what they do, or where they were in 1998 is annoying.
Back to the topic...
Is there anyway we can oust the Mayor before election time? Can the city council have a vote to get ride of the mayor? Then we can just take his salary and give it to the police, and give the EDIT funds to matters that affect more directly such as storm drainage.
Seriously, if we didn't have a mayor until the next election is there really anything that couldn't be done without him. I'm not even sure what he is suppose to do now other than ribbon cutting ceremonies.
I can never recall hearing anyone in person, or out in the public ever mention Doug England in a kind way.
Mac,
Several people here have made statements and given evidence to support their statements on legit subjects, but for some reason it is difficult to get other people to engage in the conversation. There are a few people here who can't get enough personal arguments, but when it comes to what matter they seem to disappear.
I'm still waiting for the rest of that ballgame remember? You've had time and even said you'd be back, but you never did come back. The games over, you lose.
I don't care if you are Mark, Mike, Mickey, or Mindy if you can't step up to the plate when it matters your name means nothing.
I know you are involved, and you do put your opinion in the conversation which is great, but to make statements like
"I was referring to cowards who make accusations and have no proof. If you have the proof, I could possibly even make allowances for anonymity for your protection. Otherwise you are nothing more than a braying donkey with a bag over your head."
Saying that and still waiting for the rest of your ballgame report makes my head spin when I read it.
Is it better to be a donkey or an Ostridge with his head stuck in the sand when people do research to back up their points only to have the bird's head reappear when someone yells out John Smith who works at the BP gas station.
God bless old John Smith.
Such a well spoken man, and a great athlete too! Three cheers for John Smith! He's such a great man I won't even bother with what he has to say I'll just go along with it! Yeah!
God bless my nephew, BP John.
I think the Bastille Day celebration is a good idea, thank you for hosting and coming up with such a good event. I don't know of any other bar doing a Bastille Day celebration. I'm going to try and convince friends to come, smart ones who understand France beyond what our former president said.
Cheers
Anybody know what an "Ostridge" is?
Oh, I bet you meant "ostrich". I don't normally remark on spelling errors because so many of them are just typing errors. That is no typing error. I'd guess your head spins anytime that you try to read.
I'm sorry, you totally lost me with the BP station. If that makes me stupid, well, it won't be the first time. And my name is still attached. Just like your bag.
Mark
Yes Mac you famously ignored everything I was saying.
You do not remember your play by play baseball game from the Pools,Pools, and more Pools post?
I'll will be back, or something along those lines?
You never came back, you ignored it, and you are continuing to do so now.
Yes, I miss spelled Ostrich, but the sun will still rise tomorrow, and I'm not so insecure enough that I can't admit that I miss spelled something.
You're not a stupid person Mac, I never said that, and no one should believe that who comes to this blog.
But, you are a huge hypocrite, maybe insecure with yourself?, and you only see what you want to see.
When I first came to this blog I thought there were some really passionate people here who want to change New Albany for the better, and intelligent enough to have debates that will lead to answers or some positive conclusions.
More and more now realize that this is really just for entertainment, which it should always have that aspect, and peoples personal egos are too large to get to the bottom of anything.
I'm writing a lot and I may not be making myself clear enough to you, I'll try to address what you seem to not understand.
RememberCharles, after immature bickers back and forth with the circle jerk, got the conversation back on track about one-way vs. two-way traffic on Spring st. Opinions were made, but only RememberCharles actually did research to find how one-way vs two-way was a good idea or not.
You Mark began a sarcastic analogy about how the other side was not up to bat, before remembercharles made a tremendously long post. After the post was made nothing was heard from "the other team" But, you did say you had a life and other things to do, and that you would be back, but this never transpired, yet here we are arguing about what he said she said about John Smith, and all kinds of irrelevant topics which makes me think this is just fun for you.
Do you feel better about yourself when you point out grammar mistakes? Does it compensate for the lack of something else? Does it ease the pain of being blatantly wrong?
What I really want to know is....
Do you want to go have a beer?
Hmm, I have the ideal place in mind for a beer. Perhaps we might begin a Sunday tradition of pints and earnestness, sans masks, and locate consensus - or, wreck the furniture like the Old West.
can we all agree, our city has way more problems than solutions? Let's start a fair and balance discussion, instead of attack groups and people who fight for the little people.
Ok?
can we all agree, our city has way more problems than solutions? Let's start a fair and balance discussion, instead of attack groups and people who fight for the little people.
Ok?
I have said it before, and Mark had said it recently, WE are the ones who keep electing people to office who have been in office and nothing was accomplished.
We have some new blood in city hall, but the number of recycled politicians greatly out numbers the new ones.
The heart of the problem with this city is that no one behind the reins thinks outside of the typical New Albany box, as a result we are stagnated.
"Let's start a fair and balance discussion, instead of attack groups and people who fight for the little people."
I'm just curious. Why does it seem to you that those who "fight for the little people" are the ones being attacked, and moreover, what exactly does it mean to "fight for the little people?"
Why isn't it all the people?
So, why do the same crummy people continue to get elected? Do they ever do exit polls for New Albany elections? Who's the majority of people voting, and why?
Is there any easy way to marginalize special interest in New Albany?
10:24 to many groups have their own agenda. And, it's not the little people either.
Instead of what's in it for me and my business, what's best for the majority.
So as "two groups" with differing points of view, how do we move to get past the name recognition voting in New Albany?
Where do we look for new political stock?
I guess it's fair enough to criticize me for not coming back to the "microphone". Let me try and start over, in a kinder, gentler way.
First, I make a lot of wise cracks, especially when I write. Part of it is to cover up for my poor writing skills. The major reason is to try and keep things from becoming too "heated". Make people smile a little and realize that, as you said above, the sun will come up tomorrow. Yes, occasionaly, there is a message in my wise cracks.
Second, I did not go back to "game" mainly because there was not much that I could think of to say. You say that RemChar was the only one to do research on 1-way vs 2-way. Not true. I'm not saying that you are lying, you probably are new to these blogs and don't know. Jeff and Roger have been posting research and links for a couple of years in support of 2-way streets. Just a suggestion, but it might behoove you to go back a few months in the archives. Plus, the Mayor made it part of his campaign and that was almost 2 years ago. So, it's not like it is new story, by any means.
And third, my donkey braying remark is directed to those who only spout slogans and make outlandish claims without any support and do it all anonymously. Actually, I don't put RemChar in that group. I may not always(or ever, who knows)agree with him, but he obviously has some intelligence and does do some research. And is trying to talk issues instead of just running around saying that the Mayor is a crook, too many people work for the city(without saying how many they think it should be), etc. I still think "unhooding" would be a good idea, though.
Hope this helps you or anyone else perhaps understand where I am coming from.
If I left anything out, please ask. Anytime.
Mark
Your right Mark, hundreds work for the city. Until you have, you do not understand how New Albany works. There are more deals cut in the hallways and stair wells.
You want to talk about campaign promises. England made plenty. Should he keep some or all, that's the question.
I had a conversation with the paving crew on upper Spring Street, and they informed my wife and myself, they did not even fix the drainage, and stated, everyone on Spring Street knows how bad the drains are, so the street looks nice, wait until the next big rainfall and see what happens.
Then I talked with my neighbor who is a police officer and he says most New Albany officers don't agree with hiring more officers. So what and how should my family and myself think?
They have money for raises, but need to raise my fees.
All I said was that the Mayor made it part of his campaign. That 1-way vs 2-way wasn't a new a discussion, as some seem to think. Didn't have anything to do with pro or con.
I've also heard different "thoughts" from different police officers.
As to your point about me not understanding because I have not worked for the city, can I ask you a question? How many mutli million dollar budgets have you been responsible for?
Just this one.
Is anyone aware there is a city employee who turns in mileage and he makes more in mileage than his salary. So you combine the two and he makes what elected officials make. Why isn't someone asking the big question why? Instead, they turn a blind eye. I agree with my councilman there is no accountability in our city to you, me or any other tax payer.
I myself probably pull in a good comparable percentage of my salary in mileage checks as well.
ANd since we get Government funds those mileage sheets are subject to independent auditors inspections every year.
We have seen where questionable mileage was ordered to be reimbursed.
Hopefully city employees have to do this as well anytome they are using their personal vehicles for city business, and if they do those records would be available for inspection under open records laws, right?
4:01,
Proof? Is it unjustified mileage?
5:53 the mayor is a crook
And how long have we been waiting for the evidence of this?
...and we wait.
BTW, I'm tired of the little people's special interest. The little people are trying to steal city government so taxpayer dollars can be used to push little ideas.
Damn smurfs! Go back to your mushrooms!
Roger,
You're going to charge people $55 for a Bastille Day dinner?
Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of Bastille Day, the storming of a prison to free political prisoners and the end of a French Monarchy?
Do you think the noble people set down to an expensive elite dinner that night.
Feeding mussels to the noble people of New Albany makes up for it? Everyone should eat mussels the night of the 14th.
As of this afternoon, we had only 20 reservations for the dinner.
Bummer.
Hope to see you there, Roi.
Well, that doesn't really mean anything to what I was trying to point out, but that's good I'm glad to hear that. This of course being from a pure New Albanian prospective, and not a French line of thought.
I didn't feel obliged to respond to a point when there was none, so I made up my own.
Now I await the next name change with glee ... and a full beer. Ah, the tedium.
You're actually learning about French characters from my name changes? I didn't realize how progressive this blog was.
The point is expensive dinners for Bastille Day is ironic. Go watch "Murmurs of the Heart", and the way the French treat the elite people at the Bastille Day celebration.
Then go listen to Pride (In the Name of Love) and then watch the video and realize how horrible the video is to such a great song.
Are you all closed on Mondays? I was totally going to buy my friend and I some Community Dark only to find the lights out at 9:30 pm.
The New Albanian is a bar right?
France is a country, right?
Jacque le bleu! I did not know that New Albany had so many French people! I might actually run for Emperor. I should hope to think that I could get the Franc vote but I have been dead since 814 Anno Domini
Viva la France :-)
Mark,
"Second, I did not go back to "game" mainly because there was not much that I could think of to say. You say that RemChar was the only one to do research on 1-way vs 2-way. Not true. I'm not saying that you are lying, you probably are new to these blogs and don't know. Jeff and Roger have been posting research and links for a couple of years in support of 2-way streets. Just a suggestion, but it might behoove you to go back a few months in the archives. Plus, the Mayor made it part of his campaign and that was almost 2 years ago. So, it's not like it is new story, by any means."
You are right about the Mayor making it a campaign issue for him and his constituents but not all New Albany citizens went to England rallies or meetings.
The first time I heard mention was through the paper. Not long after that I was able to tell Carl that it was a bad idea to change Spring St. I personally ask him not to at a neighborhood meeting. He said that there were issues to work out and that not everybody liked the idea. Between that time and when it was brought up again in the paper I went to the plan commission and asked to see their plan for the change. They told me that they had no plan to show. I felt that this was bad form, to make such a large impact in the city and not have a plan.
Although Roger and Jeff may have done research it is not Roger or Jeff who makes the decisions when it comes to such an issue. If two-way is only going off of this research then it would be further proof that it was being done hastily. Secondly if such research is there it would be their responsibility to use that information to support their arguments and still to this point none has been presented on this blog. I believe that this is what anon 12:09 was getting at. It is not my responsibility to do that for them. Thirdly, you should have looked up the references that I provided and tried to see if my points were wrong or that other evidence would prove wrong or you could, with aristotle reasoning, argue you own opinion.
To make a further point I have never said changing curtain streets to two-way is wrong or a bad idea. I only disagree with Spring St. It is not like the others. When people make one decisions for every street their understanding becomes acute.
Mark,
"As to your point about me not understanding because I have not worked for the city, can I ask you a question? How many mutli million dollar budgets have you been responsible for?"
That is why anonymity is better you don't know if anon has or has not managed multimillion dollar budgets.
You can only base your conclusions on his/her statements, the issue stands alone.
Just because anon manages million dollar government budgets doesn't make him/her an expert either. There are many unqualified people in their perspective fields.
That is what Federal Farmer referenced about the Federalist Anti-Federalist, don’t rely on celebrity.
It's not "Jacque" it's "choc" as in shocking.
We would say "Oh my lands" in the United States, in France they would say "Choc le bleu" Shocking blue, it means nothing much like "Oh my lands"
I hear Sarah Palin's voice when I read that.
On second thought they said "Choc le Bleu!" back in the olden days in France, the old fuddy duddies. Perhaps similar to the old fuddie duddies that close a bar at 9pm on a Monday night.
No wonder New Albany can't take off, the only place that takes advantage of the 3am last call is Mac's hideaway and that place stinks like cigs and cheap over weight women.
I think New Albany needs a bar with a good juke box, sure they can have some ancient U2 and yacht rock so Roger will feel welcome, and cheap Schlitz, PBR, and Old Style Beer. Then perhaps the have and the have nots will unify under one roof.
Reading posts from RemCha's creative cast of characters is like waking up the morning after Bastille Day and realizing Jerry Lewis actually is a comic genius.
I suppose it would be easier to sleep at night thinking that "anonymous" was just one person, but I assure you it's not.
I don't expect you to understand because we've already been through all of this. The fact of the matter is you are way too hung up on people and not issues.
There are some anonymous people whom I have no idea who they are, but what they say I think is great sometimes.
Funny, I didn't attend a meeting or rally for England. Yet, I knew that issue was part of his platform. You didn't bother to research the Mayor's race? It was in the PAPER. Or was the fact that he was running on the Democratic ticket enough research?(Doug England might recognize my face but I would bet dollars to donut holes that he can't call me by name).
Roger and Jeff don't make the decisions? Darn, I didn't know that.(so no one misses it, that was sarcasm)You presented your side. Roger and Jeff have presented theirs--numerous times over the past 2 or 3 years. It's up to the people to make up their minds. Isn't that what you want or have I misunderstood?
What makes you think that I haven't followed up on some or all of your research? Because I didn't come back to "discuss" it? Actually, I haven't participated in any of the discussions. I'm just not that passionate about it, probably because I don't live or work downtown. I still don't agree that New Albany needs an "expressway" through downtown. Admittedly, not based on research. Just my opinion.
As for the rest of it, Daniel Short said it much better than I can:
"I just feel that if you truly believe in what you are saying then attach your name to it. Of course, in America, you don't have to...but if you want people to take you seriously you should."
Daniel and I don't agree much on politics. Still, he comes around and discusses the issues with us without a hood. Please don't try to explain your theory again. I understand your point. Perhaps it's just a trade off. If so, I have to come down on the side of responsibility. Responsibility for one's words and actions. Responsibility for the attempt to filter out the biases that we all have when analyzing an issue. It's just the responsible thing to do.
What's a "curtain street?" And what does this say about the caliber of Charlie's thinking?
Charlemagne ? Plutôt le charlatan ! Est-ce que nous disent- le grand croisé, au lieu de se promener sans signification, comment vous en tout de votre grande connaissance fixeraient les problèmes ici ?
Le plus curieusement vôtres,
Gerard
Man, Babel Fish is getting a workout today.
Since I've been referenced here repeatedly, I'd just like to point out that I'm not really me. Thinking that I'm me may inadvertently contribute to the creation of the trusting relationships necessary for sustainable community development and, if that ever happens, then what will we do?
French word alert:
And I'm the one they call a "dilettante."
That is French, right?
(Andy finds Gomer sitting in the barracks with a bucket on his head)
Andy: Psst. Hey, Gomer.
Gomer: (removes bucket) Hey, Andy. How'd you know it was me under this thing?
Andy: I just took a guess. What's wrong?
Gomer: Nothin'. Why do you ask?
Andy: Well, Gomer, whenever I see a man sittin' by hisself in a Quonset hut with a bucket on his head I've got to ask, "What's wrong?"
So Jameson Bledsoe you agree or at least could live with two way streets everywhere but Spring. You agree the streets should be made safer for bikes and pedestrians. Am I missing something? Where does all of the anger come from? Everyone basically agrees except for whether Spring is one or two way. Good lord, people, wake up. you are on the same team.
"To make a further point I have never said changing curtain streets to two-way is wrong or a bad idea. I only disagree with Spring St. It is not like the others. When people make one decisions for every street their understanding becomes acute."
So, all our reasoning is sound and applies to all the other steets in town except for the one that is in most need of making two ways?
Hmm.
"Reading posts from RemCha's creative cast of characters is like waking up the morning after Bastille Day and realizing Jerry Lewis actually is a comic genius."
French stuff is not mine it is someone else. I have only posted as ReChar I don't speak French but don't let anyone know, I would be done as Emperor.
Gerard, I do have a plan. I will let you know all about it but right now I'm a little busy please be patient and I will answer all your questions.
Please no need for names
When I have time guys i.e. Mark and Roger, Jeff too. I will answer your questions, please be patient.
Or it may be better to have you all over for dinner one night to talk
No, Je nue suis pas Charlemange, mais Je suis le charlatan! oh-hoh-hoh-hoh-hoh-hoh
Oui, Il y a beaucoup problèmes dans New Albany, mais ca ne simple respond pas.
Kannst sie helfen bitte?
Busy, I understand. At least there is something we can agree on.
vbg
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