After much discussion and even a short recess in the hallway Mr. Messer introduced and supported the Mayor's plan B for the sewer rate increase. He explained his vote stating that he voted the way he felt would be the best plan for the people and that he was not influenced by the Mayor. He said that they had not had a conversation about his vote or about his recent attention by the newspapers and TV.
The Ordinance has not yet passed. There was only a second reading tonight, with presumably the third and final reading at the next meeting.
Understandably there was a lot of opposition from the council and from the public. Mr. Gahan said that he did not see an emergency need to borrow the money and thought that we could finish these projects without incurring more debt. Mr. Coffey and Mr. Price concurred.
Again there were remarks from the public including Vicki Denhart who supported using more EDIT and TIF funds to keep the rates down. She also mentioned the unpaid hookup fees from Linden Meadows and wondered aloud how many other homes had unpaid hookup fees.
Joy Chism, a first time speaker said that she cannot afford the rate increase and blamed the sewer problems on mismanagement.
Rev. Steve Burks said that he has been a resident since 1997 and since then the sewer utility has been in constant crisis. He thinks we need clarity as to the specific needs because the city budget that he was given was very vague. He also repeated that the top city officials should lead by example and take a voluntary salary cut.
In other business:
A 10-02 - $300,000 Appropriation from Rainy Day to Stormwater passed 7-2
A 10-03 - $400,000 Appropriation from Rainy Day to pay claims and make improvements for
the damage caused by the August 4 flooding passed 7-2
A 10-04 - $75,000 from E.D.I.T. to stormwater passed 8-1
A 10-05 - $100,000 from Riverboat to demolish unsafe properties passed 9-0
G 10-07 - Ordinance regulating tattoo and body piercing establishments passed 9-0
G 10-08 - Ordinance regulating disposal of dead animals passed 9-0
Personally, I hate to see the rate increase for the sewers but if it means getting them fixed and people not having to worry about their basements flooding when it rains, then so be it. According to Mr. Fifer the "loan" of $7.4Mil. does not put cash in our bank account. It is only a draw which cannot be approved without strict documentation for projects. Mr. Zurschmeide said that the interest rates will never be lower and neither will the costs to complete the projects. I have to agree, contractors need work and so do the workers. Let's get these projects done and put our citizens to work.
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Thanks Shirley, great reporting.
Thanks Shirley, great reporting.
Did Messer vote for the sewer rate increase?
Remember these names next year if and when they run for Council:
John Gonder
Robert Caesar
Kevin Zurschmiede
Jack Messer ( X candidate for mayor)
Diane Benedetti
They were bought for 12 piece of silver.
11:45, right idea - wrong names. And: The Judas analogy is SO trite.
11:19 yes! After he cut a deal with England to go before the Merit Board. He'll get a slap on the wrist but England gets to use EDIT and TIF for his slush fund.
You got that right. Even Zurschmiede voted yes. Something smells awful wrong here.
Anyone notice Kevin is voting more and more England's way?
Sewer Loan?
I thought they couldn't make bond payments? Who the heck knew this was all about borrowing more money?
Thanks for the coverage Trib.
8:06
"11:19 yes! After he cut a deal with England to go before the Merit Board. He'll get a slap on the wrist but England gets to use EDIT and TIF for his slush fund."
I rear my head only to add this in, in matters of police misconduct it is not out of the realm of reasonableness that the police merit commission would handle this, and yes he will probably get a slap on the wrist, and that is about all he deserves when one considers the totality of his career as a veteran NAPD officer. However, it has been made clear that no laws were broken by Jack. No one was injured, no ones safety was compromised. Too attempt to use his misspeaking one sentence out of his decades of service to this community as a police officer, with out notable incident is about as distasteful as those who called for his removal from the department, and civil law violation indictments passed down. What he said was wrong, but it was sure the hell a LOT better than most of the stuff posted here.
Guess that is your opinion.
To Zurschmeide and Messer, what else does the Mayor have on BOTH of you?
I have heard the rumblings of a lawsuit not yet filed against the City because of actions taken by these two.
I also hear it has nothing to do with Zurschmeide's Asian Spa and has nothing to do with Messer's problems.
You can bet all who voted for this ridculousness will not be supported in the next election.
I hear Dan the Man wants to call another Town Meeting for "citizens". Dan, after witnessing you high fiving the Mayor out in the Parking Lot, why would we give a damn what you want?
We have just begun to fight as Paul Revere said.
to 4/6 3:27
Actually that was John Paul Jones
Paul Revere said "The British are Coming".
Score one for Shirley!
Sorry Shirley, Paul said it first, LOL.
Diaper Dans downfall will be when he supports the $2,000,000 for police.
Our list continues tooo grow!
Here we thought you had left "The Voice of New Albany, Christopher D?"
At least OUR police aren't "racist" in Louisville.
To all those who seem to be saying this is somehow acceptable, due to the fact that, "every human being harbours racial bias, to some degree. I'm not sure I agree with this, but I'd argue that it's irrelevant anyhow. The simple fact that we give these people guns, badges (even England has one)and the power to impose their will over the general populace dictates that they be held to a higher standard than the rest of us. That's the deal and it's being reneged upon daily by many members of the force.
Legal Beagle
How did this happen?
Well, I just want the sewer books open. There so many skelton's in the city's closet, and so corrupt, I just hope our citizens watchdogs, and I applaud our local watchdog group at last nights council meeting. I just hope they have the strength to fight to open that scary "City of New Albany, scary closet."
I was born and raised here in New Albany and I am sick by all the spending of our hard earned dollars going into spending that has nothing to do with the operation of our city, in other words "Police Power".
Sewer fee incease
The City Council had to vote on this and it was very embarrassing to watch. The City of New Albany will now turn into a third world country in all standards. The money will be mismanaged and spent for other needs.
Tough decisions needed to be made starting at the top, from trimming Malysz, and Englands outrageous spending, Council members healthcare and $1.8 - $2 million for both our police force and firefighters.
The City of New Albany I'm afraid has 15 archangels + 2 mayors who continue to desservice this city unless they start putting citizens before self interest.
Let's hope they do fall from grace and quick.
I agree. Just look at the fire departments vehicles. They have very EXPENSIVE (a) polished aluminum wheels and (b) GOLD inlaid hand-painted signage. Yes, you heard me correctly, none are functional, they just exude greed and stature.
The people of New Albany need to wake up and vote these clowns out.
No. What the citizens need to have are new rules and regulations pit into place so the city council and Mayor can not over spend or vote them-selves a pay raise-let the people do it.
Zurschmiede, Benedetti and Caesar are free loaders and are bought and paid for just like Messer and Gonder.
Legal Beagle,
You had said this: "the power to impose their will over the general populace", this is not exactly true.
Police officers have the power to impose the will of the law, written, adopted, approved, ratified, and enacted by those who are elected by the people.
In regards to the person in question here, his service records should be a matter of public record. Break out your magnifying glass and look over it, you will probably only find decades of good service, no suspensions, very few legitimate complaints.
I have known Jack pretty much my entire life, he worked with my father, and I worked with him as a reserve officer for nearly a decade, and I never once witnessed Officer Messer act in a racial biased manner, in speech, action, or "profiling". He said something he shouldn't have, and more than likely the one sentence that has been reported may well be taken out of context since we do not have information to the entire conversation. It's a little thing called totality of circumstance, if you are a legal beagle you should understand that concept.
"very few complaints" What the hey does that mean? Can the public see his record or just the press?
In committee meetings I have found him to be rude, abrasive and a know it all.
I'm glad you know him better than that.
Did we ever clarify whom said "we have just begun to fight"?
I agree with the Paul Revere answer.
Daniel, did you ever talk with SRF officials and how receiving Georgetown monies will not affect our Bonds? Thanks.
To Zurschmeide and Messer, what else does the Mayor have on BOTH of you?
I have heard the rumblings of a lawsuit not yet filed against the City because of actions taken by these two.
More comments from someone who claims to love the freedom of speech because it allows him/her to get away with spreading lies.
Show us the proof. Without proof, it's just the same old, tired, boring, meaningless lies spread here every day.
12:58
I am only speaking as to his service records as an NAPD Officer, not as a Council member.
(all though I feel at times all council memebers can act like a brash know it all, perhaps it just takes that kind of personality to be there)
Thank you for the dialog on this.
"Daniel, did you ever talk with SRF officials and how receiving Georgetown monies will not affect our Bonds? Thanks."
Yes and no. I e-mailed them last week with a list of questions, and their P.R. lady said someone would get back with me this week. I just e-mailed them again asking for an update.
"Show us the proof. Without proof, it's just the same old, tired, boring, meaningless lies spread here every day."
Anonymous "Show us the Evidence", it looks like more of your tired ole boring meaningless posts. You ever considered getting a hobby instead of just blogging and posting your tired ole stuff day after day? You're just as tired if not more than the ones you post about.
You ever considered getting a hobby instead of just blogging and posting your tired ole stuff day after day?
Sounds like you don't have a shred of evidence. Nothing. Zip. Zero. Zilch.
If you have a clue as to what's going on, you'd post it. But you keep on blogging about conspiracies.
Grow up, stop spreading lies, learn that you don't know everything and get a life.
Thank you Daniel.
Daniel, and, if you receive an answer contrary to what the Sewer Board and City have related to you and citizens, will you print it? Not bashing you, simply curious.
I don't know if you are able to answer that question. I am curious as to how Tribune will cover issues once the truth all comes out on the sewer fiasco.
Listening today to the news and how a city government is shutting down two days a week because of the budget crisis, which is across the nation. Then, I look at New Albany and how we do not have a budget crisis, we have no end to money, we continue to hire and create new boards, we continue to give raises. It is simply unbelievable the City is so out of touch with its' citizens, state, etc.
"Daniel, and, if you receive an answer contrary to what the Sewer Board and City have related to you and citizens, will you print it? Not bashing you, simply curious."
Only person I've heard say the SRF doesn't want New Albany to demand the 450k of Gtown was a member of the sewer board. But to answer your question, yes, we'll print any legitimate information on the issue. I received an e-mail today from the Finance Authority and I'm supposed to call one of their people about the topic tomorrow.
get a life Mark!
Thanks.
Keep your eyes on Kentucky courts law anonymous slanderers. It may well set a standard where your anonymous slandering may soon be coming to an end!
Take that up as your hobby mark. We are sticking here to Indiana
My name is not Mark and this has the potential to stop cyber bullying nation wide. Are you ready to pay for your lies?
Perfer to stick with the topic on here instead of your games. Do you have anything to contribute to the posted topic or you still full of nothing?
Collect from Georgetown. The money will be need to pay the attorney's who turned around and sued the city for not paying and won.
Sure I'll play along. We need to pay for the service we use. We need rate increases to pay for the needed improvements. We need rate increases to pay for the people to run the system. We need to all pay our fair share. commercial, residential, and industrial needs to pay more to cover the costs, and all three need to pay the same amount for each gallon put into the system. Politics and sewage are related, but this should not be a politcal issue.
What about accountability of where the money has been spent and accountability for future money to be spent. Isn't that pretty important. Personally, I think the heavier users should be charged more. They are the ones putting the greatest strain on the system. Increase strain = increase maintenance and repairs.
And how much money are you willing to spend to find out where this supposed money went? We have a system in place to assure that those who can not appropriately handle our money are taken care of, it’s called an election, and I just do not see where that much wrong has been done. It takes more than a handful of cranky women and an ex councilman saying unsubstantiated slandering to convince me. The state said our accounts were okay, works for me. And again, I say we pay a flat rate across the board. If you put a gallon of waste into the system you pay for the processing of a gallon of waste. Adding higher charges to commercial and industrial user is part of the reason we are not adding new jobs or new businesses around here.
apparently you do not know how to read the states audit report. perhaps you should try and learn how to understand it. have you talk to them at the state?
http://www.in.gov/sboa/WebReports/B34980.pdf
what part of page 42-52 is the state saying that all okay?
If only that is the way things worked with OUR sewers!
A gallon in and a flat rate, ROF.
Who do you think you are kidding?
Simply to get ONE (1) sewer credit from the EPA costs rate payers 5 - 2 ratio. ONE (1) gallon of I/I out (required to be documented before the claim to such can be made) for one measley sewer credit.
I can't apologize the sewers are in the shape they are. I, personally, am simply tired of the crap some wish to cram down our throats when we know the opposite is true. No slander, gossip, etc. here, simply FACTS. Won't apologize either you DO NOT UNDERSTAND what is going on.
Have a good 'un.
Oh, I see. Because I, like most people in this crap hole town do not see things as you do, we simply aren't capable of understanding, like you do? Are saying the majority of the people here are stupid compared to you, is that it? Oh, and the audit I am too stupid to comprehend, do any of those things listed that you are mentioning differ from other cities that much? Oops, no they do not. Are any of the items you are referring to suggest criminal misuse of funds, whoops, no they do not. And I do not want an apology from you because I have no clue who you are, and I do not want to know you. I do not want to be around people who refuse to accept the fact that we have a service that we have to pay to use. If you do not like it, then do not use the sewage system. Have a good un just don't flush
"I do not want to be around people who refuse to accept the fact"
I'm speaking of you and only you! Some have shown they understand how to read and comprehend audits. The audit report is enough evidence. As I suspected, you don't care about the facts. If you think there is nothing wrong with the audit, then that is precisely why New Albany continues to be how it is. Some people actually care.
How about you show me the evidence where you say other cities have the same things listed in their report as you say we do. Now how about you practice what you preach and show me the evidence or will you just continue to display your ignorance. I bet you avoid showing proof of your statement.
lets revert back to kindergarten days. You show me your evidence of criminal activities committed by the administration, and I will show you mine. Bet you won't do it. By the way, just in case you missed it this administration was elected by the majority of the voters in this city. Looks like you may be outnumbered.
These projects have nothing to do with basment overflows. Most of that was caused when the emergency pipe contols on houses were capped (clark/deitz, i believe).
OUR CREDIT IS SHOT --OUR CARD IS MAXED OUT!!! I cannot believe that people think it is alright to raise rates---to show more income so these nimrods can borrow more money.
This is another money grab, just like when the mayor wanted 10 mil for paving, even though he could not possibly do more than four mil of paving in one season. They need money to play with.
Big deal on Messer and Zurchmeide voting together. They may vote together, may drink together,may run plates together. No big deal.
Will someone please tell me where all the moaners and groaners are about New Albany's slum housing went?
Will someone please tell me how come we have a Deputy Mayor who's job or position was never approved by Council?
Will someone tell me how it is okay for the police and fire to demand a forensic audit and then fold their cards for the money England is asking for?
Will someone please tell me how you can start this lovely city out at $5 million in the red and justify any raises?
Will someone please tell me why the sewer projects listed have already been finished, with a life expectancy of 20 years and it has been 5?
Will someone please make some sense about the waste, the over paid officials, the insurance for certain members of Council, etc?
Will someone please tell me how you ignore the Audit and claim everything is okey dokey?
Don't pick and choose. Answer all of the questions above and then, maybe then, you may have a leg to stand on! It is one thing to be called a liar; totally another thing to assume we are stupid.
Insults on top misery, dear little ole N'Albany.
Anyone attend Coffey's Townhall meeting tonight?
Great questions, if only we had the answers.
A forensic audit of England's Ponzi scheme is a fantastic idea. He strives to use his a cloak to hide his personal enrichment.
Ponzi scheme?
Maybe so, but you got to show us some evidence.
Do you expect us to just believe every anonymous post we read on the internet?
I just read the "Ceremonial First Pitch" post at FOS.
All I can do is ask "What the hell? Is there a point to the post?"
The professor is so blind with rage that she thinks she has a big important point even when it's just about Obama throwing out a pitch at a ball game. Oh my God! He throws out a pitch! How dare he!
Hey professor, I'm surprised you didn't believe the conspiracy about Obama stealing first base.
You have to adnit his pitch sucked. In fact my 4 year old can pitch better than the Prez.
Fifer better get away from England now, or he'll get dragged in with him.
Why has he hired a guy (Fifer) that is so notorious? Sure shows bad judgement if you ask me.
I guess since Fifer works so closely with developers, he'll (England) pulls anyone in to get his way.
Birds of a feather flock together.
Anonymous 2:24 AM<--- most obsessed with the professor. Even at 2am in the morning he is thinking of the professor!
There's the evidence!
most of us are not obsessed with the professor. Most of us stopped believing in imaginary friends when we were children.
Anonymous 2:24 AM "show me the evidence" is the one most obsessed.
There is a story about the notoriuos Greg Fifer an Attorney in the area relayed. Once upon a time, a FEW years ago, there was a meeting between Mayor Galligan, the ex-Mayor of Shively, Greg Fifer, and others. A big brawl ensued...furniture broken...fists flying...and police were called.
All came out disheveled, broken furniture in the room and yet no one would tell the police anything. This meeting had something to do with money missing from an account set up.
I wish I knew more of the particulars, like what money. Greg Fifer can't back out of England's way. There is more to his reputation than you may know.
This from an Attorney.
There's the evidence!
By "evidence" I mean something that a rational, reasonable person would consider evidence. Just really hating someone doesn't count.
So where's this evidence. If it's so good, just show us and wow us and let us admit that most people were wrong to trust the mayor.
"There is a story about the notoriuos Greg Fifer...."
And a judge would call that story hearsay. Hearsay's not admissible in court for a reason. The reason is because it's unreliable.
...unreliable. Just like Freedom of Speech.
You are not interested in evidence! You are only interested in posting the same thing over and over each and everyday. Shallow and brain dead you are. All your post of saying the same thing is the evidence that prooves my point.
I don't hate. Simply stating the facts. It wouldn't be hearsay if the Attorney in question went on record stating the facts. Then, where would you be?
"I don't hate. Simply stating the facts"
Where is YOUR evidence on your so called FACTS?
just more of your blah blah blah show me the evidence and I still will refute it BS
We know you would refute it, even with the facts. You said a mouthful with that statement. If it wasn't so sad it would be downright funny.
Maybe the atty. was there. Good grief, I'd believe it happen, why wouldn't you?
Did anyone count how many times Fifer said well... at the last council meeting? I stopped at 34, how about you? I know three lies he said and can back them up.
some people will believe anything they read on the internet.
Did anyone count how many times Fifer said well... at the last council meeting? I stopped at 34, how about you? I know three lies he said and can back them up.
WOW! Human lie detector here. It's amazing the CIA hasn't offered you a job seeing how you can read minds.
THIS IS THE EVIDENCE? THE FACT THAT THE GUY SAID "WELL" A BUNCH OF TIMES?
Maybe he kept saying "well" because he was being asked stupid questions and he was fed up.
I enjoy reading Freedom of Speech. I would recommend to 2:24 and 1:49 you stop drinking the progressive kool-aid.
Get a life, get a REAL job, just like the rest of us working class and stop bitching.
You are like Baylor, beating a dead horse and making no sense with your anger.
POLICE OFFICER: Jimmy, did you kill the girl?
JIMMY: Well, Officer, no. Why do you ask?
POLICE OFFICER: That's it, Jimmy. You're going to the gallows.
(que Dragnet daaa da da daaaa)
CASE CLOSED! Our courts would be so efficient with CFA and Professor Erika in charge because they know everything even without hearing all the facts!
Get a life, get a REAL job, just like the rest of us working class and stop bitching.
Tell me something. How do you know I don't have a "Real job." What do you think I do for a living?
(Hint: The answer is not making up stuff and judging people with insufficient evidence.)
Get a life, get a REAL job, just like the rest of us working class and stop bitching.
Asking you to provide evidence of why YOU are "bitching" is not bitching. You don't you stop bitching about England's smoke filled rooms that you can't prove exists?
Judge people with insufficent evidence? Who is judging?
When Fifer starts "welling" you then you may have a problem. He "wells" all the time when the truth is spoken and he doesn't have an answer. Been there, done that and I understand why he wells. It's not rocket science.
The ironic thing is people couldn't make this stuff up, even if they tried.
Yell, it's not rocket science, get your heads out of the sand.
Is your head in the sand? Are you yelling and not welling?
Do the secret FBI tapes show Mayor England saying "Well" too?
SMOKING GUN!
I know Professor Erik...well...Erika.
Christy
Citizens for...well... Accountability
Could someone please tell me again why nothing can get solved in this city? Please?
*Imaginary Professors
*Armchair experts
*Secret tapes
*Invisible evidence
*International conspiracies
*Multiple personality disorder having civic advocates
*Disfunctional formaer council members still sticking their nose in the councils business
*Unelectable former council candidates who can not seem to grasp the fact the people do not want them
*Groups of people who do good to accomplish basic personal hygiene, but feel they are capable of telling everyone how things should be
*Disgruntled people attacking pretty much every small business owner in town
*People who were fired from city jobs still thinking they have the right answers to everything
What a bunch of bull. But, I guess that is your opinion. Is that all you have? Talk about dysfunctional.
Ernest Said "Could someone please tell me again why nothing can get solved in this city?"
Basically, it comes down to that a majority of the people are of your likes and would rather spend their time criticizing the minority of those citizens who actually take an active involvement in trying to get things done. These people take the time to actually attend meeting, review board minutes, look at city records, call state and federal leaders, and research. They get the information and evidence. The rest like you are just too lazy to do anything to actually help this city and would rather just blog the same ole show me the evidence crap day in and day out. Because there are more people like you, that is why things do not get resolved here. So how you get off your butt and do some of the work yourself and start contributing to making this City a better place rather than spending your time criticizing those that are actually tying.
1:31 Excellent! But how about when you attack those who try just the same? I have read horrible remarks posted to people who make those calls, send those letters, attend the same meetings. By the way I am still waiting for an email from CFA and the professor at Freedom of Speech. I wanted to be involved and I wanted to know the what, where, when, who and hows. but what did I get, insulted on here, and no response to a sincere inquiry. So perhaps you need to take a look in the mirror. You know nothing of my level of activity in this city, or my contributions. Would you like to continue this conversation as is or engage in meaningful dialog about this? The ball has been in your court for months now. How do you want to play?
Today is the first day I have even seen your name on this blog. Maybe you are confused with another. E-mail FOS if you like and it's not this blog's problemo if they do not e-mail you back.
You do have a good way of distracting from the issues; nothing new.
Ernest is the same 56+ year old hoosier who is so delusional that he thinks that his BS is making a difference for this City. All it is doing is providing him daily activity for his sorry useless life.
Ernest
Anonymous - "Show me the Evidence"
Iamhoosier
Hum...what do these three have in common?
Wrong wrong wrong.. I gave you my email HERE, and at FOS. I am not in my 50's, I am in my early 40's. I am not trying to distract from the topic, I am trying to find out what you people know so I can know it as well, but this is all I get, ridicule, insults, and "go get your own evidence."
I do not know who you think I am, but you are dead wrong. And you have not seen me post "ernest" on here before because today is the first day I did that. I do not have a Google account and I do not want one. If you want me to go to hell just say so. If you want to work with someone who wants to knwo both sides of the story and to be able to make informed decisions regarding elections and such then work with me. But you surely seem very closed minded to me.
When did dead men start posting on The Voice of the People?
Hang in there folks we're getting tooooo them.
Ok Ernest - SHOW US THE EVIDENCE that you really are trying to be informed and not just here to BS and criticize. Point out the other post on here that you made prior to the use of your new Ernest.
"When did dead men start posting on The Voice of the People?"
It's probably Christopher D playing dead and he came back reincarnated as Ernest.
Basically, it comes down to that a majority of the people are of your likes and would rather spend their time criticizing the minority of those citizens who actually take an active involvement in trying to get things done. These people take the time to actually attend meeting, review board minutes, look at city records, call state and federal leaders, and research. They get the information and evidence.
I see Roger, Randy, Matt and Mark at attending meeting, reviewing board minutes, looking at city records, calling state and federal leaders, and doing research.
Are they the "lazy" people you are talking about?
Yeah, right. Who are you kidding, yourself? This group you are referring have gone to meetings since England was elected this time. Try attending meetings a lot longer than that in order to get the information needed for the understanding WHAT HAS AND IS STILL HAPPENING.
Try attending meetings when Hunter, England's prior 8 years, Overton's, Garner's, and now England again. A lot of history needed and the "group" you are referring to do not have same.
Keep swinging, you will get there eventually. (Maybe 10 years down the road.) Try twisting things around so Baylor is front and foremost. Who called them lazy?
YOU. Keep swinging; England will need you batting for him in the new field of dreams. Or swim for him in the new water park. Etc.
That's right, they called YOU lazy; are you part of the group you referred to? Too funny how the issues go to the wayside while other people get their 5 seconds of fame here. Baylor has a nice blog...why don't you get you information from him?
one thing you forgot to say if it is not in the minutes, it never happened need to add this advice from lawyers to city clerks for the response
Great job anonymous. Keep pounding them. They're only trying to mouth their distractions. Don't you smell brew on their lips and those poor sticky fingers stuck to their keyboard or iphone?
"It's probably Christopher D playing dead and he came back reincarnated as Ernest.
April 9, 2010 5:03 PM"
Please do not drag me into this.(again)
I will post some on here, but I am pretty much finished with respnding to the junenile insults on here. I will post when I have a question or information that can add to the conversation. I have been far too busy at both work and photography to mess it.
Thank you for thinking of me though.
Shirely, to pull topic hi-jack, there is supposed to be a huge health/dental affair at louisvilles freedom hall the end of the month, if my information is correct dental work and medical screenings will basically be free. I will email you info when I verify it, may be a good thing for a headline on here.
So my opinion doesn't matter because I haven't been enjoying this circus as long as you. I was in jr high when Chas Hunter was elected. Your heroes on the city council weren't even registered to vote back then.
So go back to your "smoking" basement figure out who hacked your computer this time, and live in the now.
This world past you people by so fast you didn't see it happen. It must have been nice living in the '60's(btw Tuffy Inman was mayor) but it's time to move on.
It is time to move on.
People like Price and Denhart have the same old tired idea that has been New Albany's guiding principle since the 1950s. Their idea is to starve the city of all investment and just let it plan and grow itself if it can.
The proof is in the pudding. It just doesn't work that way. New Albany could have been a prosperous city today instead of Slumlordsville had people paid a little attention somewhere between 1952 and 2004. But Denhart and Price think that New Albany's just PERFECT. They're in a shrinking minority.
Sorry folks. The next 5 years and the next 50 years are going to be different no matter who is mayor and no matter how much Denhart and Price bitch, whine, bellyache and yell. No fake professor is going to save you but people with real educations just might.
it's hard to wade through all of the comments & make sense of anything.
is watchdog journalism dead? it shouldn't be hard to run most of city council & the 2 mayors out of town with some investigative journalism.
it shouldn't be hard to run most of city council & the 2 mayors out of town with some investigative journalism.
I can hear the tag line now...
TODAY'S BIG STORY: MAYOR SAYS "WELL" 12 TIMES, FORCED FROM OFFICE BY MOB. STORY AT 11!
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