I read in today's "Tribune" that the developers are discovering problems with the Mid-town aka. S. Ellen Jones neighborhood's outdated sewer lines. It seems that the sewer department used to allow two homes to be hooked up to the same line back in the 1920's and 30's. Since there are probably several more of these "Y" connections in the area this needs to be addressed.
Apparently Jon-Paul Inc. did not add the cost of sewer lines in their original bid for the project. Hopefully this cost will me minimal so the project does not go far over budget.
Another problem is the cost of sewer hookups which run $1650 each. This is one case where I think the City Council should waive the connection fee. This is not a new development of expensive homes. These homes will be sold to lower income residents and costs need to be kept as low as possible. New Albany was fortunate to have this grant and we should do everything we can to keep the project going and sell these homes as quickly and economically as possible.
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why should they waive the hookup fees? the sewer is separate from the project and we cann't go dragging the sewer revenues down. are you wanting us to have to have another sewer rate increase? if you run for council and are elected is this what we can expect from you, giveaways for certain people or groups? this city caters to the poor at the expense of everybody else. the city should be looking at attrating the demographics that can and will support the city and all the new restaurants, stores, and yes even roger's place. this whole thing is looking again like poor planning.
Shirley..... you and the city administration are so concerned about the S. Ellen Jones area, then,
are you all saying the West End can continue to be full of rubbish, dilapidated houses, and junk cars.
You made such a big deal that you were going to help clean up the West End and did nothing to help us in our cries for help.
Why doesn't our Councilman Coffey see all of this mess and junk in the West End ?
Is there anyone associated with this project that was also associated with Linden Meadows?
Good thought--- why didn't they put that Linden Meadows housing mess in the S, Ellen Jones or East End area.
Same old story---- dump all of the mess in the West End and spend all of the money in the EasT End.
shirley must be wanting to buy one of those houses that's why she is so quick to want to give free sewer lines and hookups.
No setting PRECEDENT, SHIRLEY. Give on exception, got to give them all an exception. Habitat doesn't get exceptions; Sister Barbara doesn't get exceptions; I could go on and on. NO, SHIRLEY.
AND, we were suppose to have ALREADY FIXED THOSE PROBLEMS. Alas.
Excuse me. Give ONE exception (fine correction). Thanks.
Good grief, this just shows your lack of knowledge of how things should be done.
Your running for Council At Large, am I correct?
You have a great deal to learn, sissy.
3:20, could be why the residence of the Westend want Denhart to run.
That woman's got b#*/s she won't kiss nobody's ass.
She's got my vote when she called England out at the last council meeting my wife and I attended.
She's to busy eating herb focaccia, fresh egg pasta wuth truffles and checking out spices, teas, wines and cheeses in Italy.
We're not talking about Vicki here, we are talking about SHIRLEY and how she should know we can not make exceptions because we will set PRECEDENT (a legal word) and WE CAN NOT AFFORD IT.
Like I was saying to CM Price when we were at the SEJ neighborhood revitalization kickoff ... no, wait, the neighborhood's own councilman didn't show up for that one. Must have been karaoke night somewhere.
Never mind. He doesn't mind ... why should we?
LOL.
once again baird you show how stupid you are. First its not the same sewer line, two homes two sewer laterals and a common y connection and this continued all the way into the 70's. Waiving a connection fee would not only be fiscally disasterous but subject to litigation and you want to open that pandoras box? Its too bad they dont have an IQ test for primary elections you would be disqualified from running, wont matter though you are toast on main lol.
hey baylor while you were sipping wine yesterday did you decide to walk instead of bike so you wouldnt be pulled over for bui biking under the influence, enjoy while you can your days of being a new albany political wannabe are fading away, would you like some cheese with your whine
3:36, Yep...Ted Fulmore. He got fired from Linden Meadows and England got him a job with the company doing SEJ.
Btw, Clere got us the $6.3 million for SEJ not England.
bui = biking under the influence.
Contact Price @ 941-9032, he'd be happy to write an Ordinance for that one.
Damn that's a good one anonymous 8am
I smell fear.
ted fulmore was never an employee of linden meadows and he has never been an employee of the city.
they give free sewer taps to SEJ wait for the lawsuits boys, the State will be watching this one and by the way Baylor that hat you wore for your photo op in the courier still doesnt make you look any younger like you try to act youre still a middle aged wannabe, should have worn your leotards bike boy.
denhart gets a full blown cj article and Baylor gets a photo, looks like the tide is turning bike boy, NO NEW TAXES AND NO MORE PERGRESSIVES
I agree, Dale Moss did a great job on: A woman working for the people.
What I thought was awesome was when he quotes her saying: "I tell my friends, I've got tire tracks on my back, she said. I guess it's like a badge of honor. But hey, I'm still standing."
That was priceless in my book.
It's ashame Mrs. Bolovchak turned her back on her community. As they say; if you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen.
What do you think Shirley?
It's a shame Vicki is not here but traveling in Europe at the present time. Great article though, she wouldn't want credit for this either.
I also thought it was a good article about Vicki.
I must disagree with the comment about Valla Ann though. I think the community turned it's back on her.
It's difficult when a person puts themself out there and is continually criticized no matter what they do.
Getting back to the hookup fees, I have a few words to add:
We have businesses which owe thousands in unpaid sewer bills and we have individuals who are having a hard time keeping up.
Whether it be SEJ or any other neighborhood with working class residents, I believe the people need a break. I was not recommending waiving the hookup fees for Cobblers Crossing, it was for homes which will be marketed to lower income people, people who may be purchasing their first home.
I have not said anything about the West End keeping their junk cars. I want the whole city to be clean and safe. I have helped with neighborhood clean ups and have had help from just a few people. One time people from the SEJ neighborhood came and helped, namely Ted Fulmore and the late Lloyd Wimp. These people had no reason to help us other than simple kindness.
Nov. 27 3:20 - if you live in the West End, why don't you help Mr. Coffey?
In a matter of months Coffey will be voted out of office.
1) So, what you are saying Shirley is that SEJ should get a free ride ($1,600) free hook ups per property?
2) So what is your solution on collecting back taxes and sewer bills/liens?
3) Should positions or salaries be cut to balance the budget or should we use EDIT, and/or TIF money?
4) Are you in favor of annexiation?
5) Do you support the LOIT Tax?
6) What is your solutions to solving our money problems in New Albany?
7) Why are you running for Council At Large?
8) Will you support Doug England for reelection?
9) What is your solution in solving the 85% under funding of Police and Fire?
10) Do you feel City Attorney Gibson's salary is justified?
10a) Should we have a Deputy Mayor and is his salary also justified?
These are questions I would like for you to respond too.
Merry Christmas
Yes, I would like to hear your answers to these questions also.
If one cant afford the hook up fee then most likely they will not be able to afford the house in the long run. Which will again resort to run down houses, foreclosed homes and SEJ will be back right where they began. When a community's focus is soley on attracting low income residents that is what they will get.
Maybe since Vicki has so many followers that write on this blog we can get you to pass on these questions that many have asked but have always been ignored?
1. Where/when are these meetings held?
2. Does your group have a phone listing, website or Email address?
3. Are you truly registered with the Indiana Secretary of State as a PAC?
4. Have you ever read the "Freedom of Speech" blog and do you find some of its comments racist?
5. Where can I get one of those nifty T-shirts?
Inquiring minds want to know
Here we go again. I think those questions have been answered before.
Next!
"If one cant afford the hook up fee then most likely they will not be able to afford the house in the long run. Which will again resort to run down houses, foreclosed homes and SEJ will be back right where they began. When a community's focus is soley on attracting low income residents that is what they will get."
Amen to this
There is more truth to this then what's being talked about
3:47 here you go.
1. in the evening at her house. Join in and earn your tire tracks.
2. Post your name, phone number and email address and someone will be in contact with you.
3. indeed, check it out yourself, call up to indy.
4. Never racist just factual
5. You can purchase one. post your name, email and phone number and someone will be in touch with you.
Now your tiny little inquiring mind knows.
The sewer fees should not be waved. This is a government project and New Directions should foot the bill. They are the ones making out like a bandit through their admin cost. 15% of 6.7million.
How else could Key Stone Restoration afford to make repairs to the tabernacle?
The owner of Key Stone Restoration wife works for New Directions and the mayor gave her company the 6.7 million contract along with giving her husband the tabernacle for 1 dollar.
the mayor has given many of his friends good deals. I wonder what they have done for him to get that kind of treatment?
To bad we don't have an honest mayor this city might actually stand a chance to improve.
Price was right when he said its a fratunity of corruption.
Fulmore worked for CHDO and got city money
Fulmore works for New Directions now
Lisa works for New Directions
New Direction gets city money
Lisa's husband owns Key Stone Restoration
Key Stone gets Tabernacle for 1 dollar
Steve Rush owns Baylor's building and gets new side walks
Rush then gets Shrader Stables for little or nothing.
Mayor gives New Horizen six parcels of land for 100,000 well under value.
The mayor is a crook who buys his support.
oh that ted fulmore . .
guess he wasnt satisfied with how bad he screwed up with linden meadows project so he had to get his hands into the sej project. are they going to call it s. ellen meadows or how about Foolmore meadows?
don't answer me then
Oh I forgot that Ted Fulmore was President of New Albany's historic preservation commission along with former member Dan Chandler. Dan Chandler was the legal representative for the new owner of Linden Meadows. Dan helped broker the inside deal.
The web of deceit
Shirley if you win will you put a stop to this cronyism?
New Albany has to be the most corrupt city in America
shirley you going to move out of your apartment and get a sweetheard deal with free sewer hookups on one of them houses in the sej Foolmore Meadows project?
LINDEN MEADOWS PROJECT.
Just got a brilliant idea !!
Let's move the Linden Meadows houses up to the S. Ellen Jones area and use the $6 million to refurbish those houses.
This could be a win- win for all.
You've got to be kidding?
notice how baird wont answer any quetions on this thread, you are going to lose sooooooooooooooo bad next year baird your buddy england and baylor wont even know you after you get humiliated.
another flip flopper, Gahan at Baylors party the other night, would recognize that bald head anywhere. Anderson for Council
It was a wake. Look it up. I'm certainly no fan of Jeff Gahan but attending a wake out of respect for the departed is not a bad thing.
Of all the things to bitch about...
IAMHOOSIER you sure are one to talk with all the stupid things you btch about. guess those panties of yours are still in a whad. try pulling that g-string out from between your butt cheecks and start acting like a man.
Brave. Real brave. and no respect for the dead. Guess I would wear a bag over my head, too.
Which reminds me. Why are you hiding from me? I've got no power in the city/county building. That's the only half way decent argument for anonymity that I've ever seen. What's your excuse?
It's wad and cheeks. If you're going to insult someone at least spell it correctly.
Shirley, I disagree. When Valla Ann loss the election she turned her back on us wee people. Now was her chance she could beat England. Again she turns her back on us. I say good riddens she's a phony b***h anyway.
She is like all the rest on Main Street: the hell with the rest of you, what's in it for me.
whats the matter baylor you are getting your ass kicked on here, where's your smart come-backs?
Oh thats right you are too busy taking on 1sI and walmart, you dont have to worry about buy local one day your swill house will be a sell local, foreclosure and still no answers from baird on those questions, chirp chirp.
I like turkey breast until I found out it was full of saline.
slurp,slurp.
5:50 is anonymous because he/she doesn't want all his/her hypocracy pointed out. 5:50 wants to call a pot black without anyone knowing its a kettle. anonymous words are empty words.
Why won't Shirley answer the questions from the November 30, 9:10 post?
Why isn't Baylor all over her case for ignoring the questions posted on her blog? She is a declared candidate and these are legitimate questions for a candidate.
Why isn't Baylor all over her case for ignoring the questions posted on her blog?
Because anonymous questioners don't matter. They don't exist, so why take their questions seriously?
Take off the hood and ask. Then and only then, I'll get "on her case" for you.
there goes roger with his connotation of calling others racist with his "hooded" comment. no wonder why so people have chosen to boycott the new albany brewing company
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"Hooded" might refer to cloaking one's identity in any context, not merely the racist Klan dressing, although given the proclivities hereabouts, it makes sense that the Klan would come to your mind first and foremost.
Is this more clear: Anonymites wear hoods to hide their identities because they're cowards, not because they're racists.
Yawn. The least you can do is boycott me based on what I actually say, not what you misunderstand me to say.
go to bed racist roger. you are so tired as evident by your constant state of yawning.
want you want for christmas roger a new bike, oh thats right you are an athiest, maybe some new free sidewalks
quite the man, atheist and racist.
quite the man, atheist and racist.
December 3, 2010 7:07 AM
quite the man, anonymous, illiterate, liar and chicken.
quite the man..athiest, racist, illiterate,liar and chicken....I bet there are even more words that you can come up with that would describe that new albany brewing company guy.
While secrets from WikiLeaks were splashed all over the American newspapers, I couldn’t help but wonder: What if China had a WikiLeaker and we could see what its embassy in Washington was reporting about America? I suspect the cable would read like this:
Washington Embassy, People’s Republic of China, to Ministry of Foreign Affairs Beijing, TOP SECRET/Subject: America today.
Things are going well here for China. America remains a deeply politically polarized country, which is certainly helpful for our goal of overtaking the U.S. as the world’s most powerful economy and nation. But we’re particularly optimistic because the Americans are polarized over all the wrong things.
There is a willful self-destructiveness in the air here as if America has all the time and money in the world for petty politics. They fight over things like — we are not making this up — how and where an airport security officer can touch them. They are fighting — we are happy to report — over the latest nuclear arms reduction treaty with Russia. It seems as if the Republicans are so interested in weakening President Obama that they are going to scuttle a treaty that would have fostered closer U.S.-Russian cooperation on issues like Iran. And since anything that brings Russia and America closer could end up isolating us, we are grateful to Senator Jon Kyl of Arizona for putting our interests ahead of America’s and blocking Senate ratification of the treaty. The ambassador has invited Senator Kyl and his wife for dinner at Mr. Kao’s Chinese restaurant to praise him for his steadfastness in protecting America’s (read: our) interests.
Americans just had what they call an “election.” Best we could tell it involved one congressman trying to raise more money than the other (all from businesses they are supposed to be regulating) so he could tell bigger lies on TV more often about the other guy before the other guy could do it to him. This leaves us relieved. It means America will do nothing serious to fix its structural problems: a ballooning deficit, declining educational performance, crumbling infrastructure and diminished immigration of new talent.
The ambassador recently took what the Americans call a fast train — the Acela — from Washington to New York City. Our bullet train from Beijing to Tianjin would have made the trip in 90 minutes. His took three hours — and it was on time! Along the way the ambassador used his cellphone to call his embassy office, and in one hour he experienced 12 dropped calls — again, we are not making this up. We have a joke in the embassy: “When someone calls you from China today it sounds like they are next door. And when someone calls you from next door in America, it sounds like they are calling from China!” Those of us who worked in China’s embassy in Zambia often note that Africa’s cellphone service was better than America’s.
But the Americans are oblivious. They travel abroad so rarely that they don’t see how far they are falling behind. Which is why we at the embassy find it funny that Americans are now fighting over how “exceptional” they are. Once again, we are not making this up. On the front page of The Washington Post on Monday there was an article noting that Republicans Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee are denouncing Obama for denying “American exceptionalism.” The Americans have replaced working to be exceptional with talking about how exceptional they still are. They don’t seem to understand that you can’t declare yourself “exceptional,” only others can bestow that adjective upon you.
In foreign policy, we see no chance of Obama extricating U.S. forces from Afghanistan. He knows the Republicans will call him a wimp if he does, so America will keep hemorrhaging $190 million a day there. Therefore, America will lack the military means to challenge us anywhere else, particularly on North Korea, where our lunatic friends continue to yank America’s chain every six months so that the Americans have to come and beg us to calm things down. By the time the Americans do get out of Afghanistan, the Afghans will surely hate them so much that China’s mining companies already operating there should be able to buy up the rest of Afghanistan’s rare minerals.
Most of the Republicans just elected to Congress do not believe what their scientists tell them about man-made climate change. America’s politicians are mostly lawyers — not engineers or scientists like ours — so they’ll just say crazy things about science and nobody calls them on it. It’s good. It means they will not support any bill to spur clean energy innovation, which is central to our next five-year plan. And this ensures that our efforts to dominate the wind, solar, nuclear and electric car industries will not be challenged by America.
Finally, record numbers of U.S. high school students are now studying Chinese, which should guarantee us a steady supply of cheap labor that speaks our language here, as we use our $2.3 trillion in reserves to quietly buy up U.S. factories. In sum, things are going well for China in America.
Thank goodness the Americans can’t read our diplomatic cables.
Embassy Washington.
(Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/01/opinion/01friedman.html).
Shirley I think it is time to start a new thread. How about one where you answers the questions that were asked of you.
how about the one where critics cannot spread lies without putting their names next to it?
4:13, aren't you the pot calling the kettle black?
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No wonder Baylor is going bellie up all he does is blog all day.
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Get a real job like the rest of us.
how bout that shirley answer them questions
lets give shirley a break. maybe her old computer gave out again and she is unable to get on-line.
Duh,4:58 haven't you noticed several comments have been deleted?
Duh,4:58 haven't you noticed several comments have been deleted?
chirp chirp baird, no answers, why you got to check with England and baylor first? you are such a phony baird
New question to add to the others:
What is your position on using TIF and EDIT to balance the budget?
Lost: Shirley Baird
Last seen: November 24, 2010 @ 10:58 am, promoting free sewer hook-ups for the SEJ Foolmore Meadows project.
Reward: One pint of progressive piss brew. Compliments of the atheist owned and operated, New Albany Brewing Company. (buy local and promote drunk-ism)
If you have any information on the whereabouts of Shirley Baird, please contact one of the following: Roger Baylor, Mark Cassidy, or Ted Foolmore.
Let’s find Shirley soon and bring her back to her blog. She has a lot of unanswered questions waiting for her.
О! لطيف آخر. شكرا
hey roger what are you getting your employees for christmas, a decent wage? Oh thats right you are an atheist but a good marxist would give them co -ownership of the swill house.
Merry christmas bike boy
According to the Infinite Monkey Theorem, "Given enough time, a hypothetical chimpanzee typing at random would, as part of its output, almost surely produce one of Shakespeare's plays."
Keep trying, 5:46 a.m. You're almost there.
@December 5, 2010 1:21 PM
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