Monday, January 31, 2011

UNPAID TICKETS

I just can't get over the article in the"Tribune" about the unpaid parking tickets.  The part that got to me was when Marcey Wisman-Bennett said that some people had to count out their change to pay their tickets.  That just broke my heart.

38 comments:

RememberCharlemagne said...

I get tired of the ticketing in this city.

It is another reason why not to live in New Albany.

Sadly, every year there seems to be more and more reason why not to live here.

Antiques Attic said...

Not only was I shocked by the article but even more annoyed at the thought of them considering parking meters or some other way of collecting. Apparantly the manpower is not available to collect what has been owed and probably would cost more than they have collected in the past. Also the part about taking legal against those who owe large, really, can the city afford that?! The development of downtown does not need paid street parking in my opinion. The Mayor was correct in suspending ticketing downtown and it should remain so. A patron can not eat at a downtown restaurant and then shop the retail stores in a 2 hr period. Further more naming guilty people of not paying is another negative the city needs to reconsider.

shirley baird said...

@Charlemange

I must disagree with you on that one.

I think New Albany is getting better. Yes, we are having problems but what city doesn't? You have been an active member of the community, please don't give up on New Albany. Work to improve it.

shirley baird said...

Antiques,

Thank you for your comment. I don't want to see the return of parking meters either. I also think that the city should not have posted time limits on parking in the first place. The idea is to bring people downtown to live, work and enjoy.

The New Albanian said...

After all, we wouldn't want to be like Frankfort Avenue, LOL.

Marcey said...

First let me state that I would be happy with no time limits and no parking meters in the downtown area, but let me give you some history. When the parking meters were removed everyone was happy, but then business owners started to complain because their customers had no where to park because all the parking was being used by the employees and owners of other businesses. The two hour parking was suggested by these business owners and put into place, but at that time there were very few viable businesses in the that area. Now we have more and more residents, more and more businesses and more and more customers in downtown, which is a wonderful thing, but we also have more and more employees and business owners who insist on parking in front of their, and other people's, business. So the Mayor and I met with the Business association downtown and he said that he would lift the time limits, the business owners stated they would encourage their employees to park elsewhere, and I informed them of other parking alternatives in the area. That's all great, but please explain to me how that should exempt prior tickets, including street sweeping tickets?

My office and I have worked with people in all different situations and have been very open to anyone who shows a good faith effort of taking care of their tickets, but the people on this list have not even contacted us or the City attorney. To me that is a blatant thumb of the nose to City Ordinances. Plus, if these people can refuse to pay and not be prosecuted, why should anyone pay? If the City doesn't want to enforce an ordinance why even have it on the books? Hell, let's just get rid of all our ordinances and be done with it.

Anonymous said...

I agree with you RememberCharlemagene.

Just think if Kojoke Smith get elected to council that will be one more huge reason not to live in NA. HA

Anonymous said...

I was bothered by that part too, Shirley. I'm one who's actually had to do that before, count out change for a ticket. I waited til the last day I could do so too. Excusing a fancy downtown lawyer is absolutely unfair.

shirley baird said...

Marcey, I can certainly understand your frustration. Maybe we should eliminate the parking ordinances and park the street sweeper too. That way we will have lots of cars downtown parked on dirty streets.

I don't have the answers wither, but if an ordinance is in place it must be fair to everyone.

shirley baird said...

5:21 That's what bothers me the most. Law abiding citizens like you have to sacrifice while others ignore the ordinances.

shirley baird said...

That's "I don't have the answers "EITHER". I should read before publishing

Jennifer said...

Marcey, I can see that it's frustrating when the offenders won't contact the Mayor's office. People need to show responsibility and own up to their parking tickets. It is untenable that anyone could let parking tickets stack up until they own a hundred, much less THOUSANDS, of dollars!

However, I must insist that the job of following through with this rests upon the city attorney who, from all appearances, avoids doing his job in this and many other areas. It gives the taxpayer little confidence that anything else is being done to maximum effort by this city attorney, or, in fact, by this administration.

Anonymous said...

Marcey,

Why don't you ask Mayor England your questions and ask him to do something about it rather than make it public? What is going on?

Anonymous said...

does anyone really expect beardsley to pay $24,000 in tickets? yeah he parked illegally but the city looks kind of bad when they don't bother to collect on them for years and years.

how about a compromise?

can we do a partial amnesty? both jefferson county and the ky. department of revenue have had amnesties in the past.

if someone owes a ticket from before serious enforcement began (like from a year ago), they can pay it on the first week in april for ten cents on the dollar.

it only makes sense if let people know enforcement will be stepped up consistently above past levels. Otherwise people will just wait for the next amnesty.

shirley baird said...

@ 6:44 If Marcey wants to post here she is welcome to. She does not need to run her opinions by the Mayor any more than anyone else.

If she had not signed her name she would not be picked on.

The New Albanian said...

If she had not signed her name she would not be picked on.

That's the "beauty" of anonymous cowardice. The vandals abuse the above-board. Looking for the real problem in NA? Right there it is.

I shall await the spit balls.

LMAO.

shirley baird said...

Some people cannot use their names so I will still allow anonymous comments.

I am very sorry about the teatment Marcey and others have received but even people who sign their names sometimes attack others.

It is unfortunate.

Anonymous said...

Shirley, that's not an attack on Marcey. I simply would like to know if the problem of parking tickets was discussed with the Mayor because this was his policy.

I'd also like to know why the numbers are so large and nothing done before this time. The fines are enough after so many days to pay her to notify someone, DMV, driver, resident. Where is the teeth in the ordinance?

Thank you.

Marcey said...

6:44 a.m. I have talked to the Mayor's office about it...many times. That is why I am so frustrated about it.

Shirley, thanks for having my back; you are a really good friend, but I didn't take 6:44's question as being picked on; it's a legitimate question.

8:14 I have been collecting on a regular bases since 2004. He has received several letters from us, and we did have an amnesty period...still nothing. We even created a downtown residential parking pass and he has never applied for one. I wouldn't even mind if the City wants to waive his two hour parking tickets and just charge him for his street sweeper tickets, but nothing is being done.

Anonymous said...

Roger, I wouldn't call people "vandals" just because they cannot (or will not) put their names. I work on the third floor and I KNOW I'd be fired. Period. This is the only place I can honestly vent. I see and hear stuff that makes me want to puke.

Also, Roger, since you're on the subject, if you don't think you "abuse" anyone, just look at your treatment of the people (you keep saying person) involved with Citizens for Accountability. Look at the snide remarks you put out all over the online sites, whether its facebook, twitter, the Tribune, your blog or someone elses. Mind you own words, please, and stop calling people names and accusing them of having lower ideas just because they can't put their names.

Christopher D said...

OK, it’s been a while since I have posted on here, and this is one of the reasons why I had, for the most part, left the blogsphere.

I voice my opinion openly and honestly in circles pertaining to my job, at the peril of my employment. I clash with members of the board at times, at the risk of potentially losing my job.

I am vocal to policy makers and check signers at the state and federal level knowing full well I am biting the hands that feed me.

I put my name to those items, for no other reason than I would rather stand up and be counted, and stand up for what is right, and make a stand for what I believe in, and if I should lose my job in doing so, I will be going out on my terms, and doing what is right, for myself and the community in which I serve!

If there are those in city government, whether elected, or appointed, or employed by way of a traditional hiring process that will not be willing to speak out in order to stand up for the community that they work for, then unfortunately they represent some of the problems that have been plaguing this city for far too long.

I am sure those who will not speak out are good, hard working people, no doubt about that. Eisenhower once said “A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both.”
Those who would sacrifice the principle of standing up for what is right in serving the community which they are entrusted to work for, in my humble opinion sacrifices the privilege of serving that community.

Harsh words indeed, but a civil servant who would readily not stand up for the greater good in order to protect their position is no different in the long run than an attorney that is supposed to uphold the law, would so easily thumb their nose at the laws to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars.

Anonymous said...

why dont members of citizens for accountability tell us who they are and prove they exists?

Anonymous said...

Christopher, I agree with you completely, and I would have a problem about posting attacks at individuals just so I could anonymously hurl abuses. But to discuss ideas with some feeling of safety, I think I have a valid point in wanting this. Until things change drastically downtown, I'm not going to risk my job (which would be hard to replace right now) or possibly my safety. No. I can't. So, as long as I don't get on here and throw vulgarities or insults at individuals, I have every good reason to be on here to discuss things that I want to question.

I do appreciate your position, but I can't risk it.

Anonymous said...

i've been reading all this and wondering how it is that so many people make such a big deal out of people telling who they are. If you have to tell who you are on this blog, then you would also have to tell who you are when you send in you survey questions when they send them or you would have to tell who you are when you leave a tip about a crime. When even the police let people leave anonymous tips knowing that people are afraid of repercussions if they say their name, if even the police look at every tip assuming it to be a fair and sincere one, if even the police are willing to go to this length to find out what's on peoples minds, then there's no reason why a blogger wouldn't. I applaud Shirley's willingness to accomadate those who can't apeak openly in public.

It sems to me that the only reason a blogger would insist on knowing who is posting every post is so that they would know everything, so they would have control, so they could sort of hold power over theri commenters.

Shirley doesn't insist on control, but she is clearly willing to hear ideas from everyone. This is what makes her blog such a nice place to visit even when people are being mean.

I do think personal attacks and snide remarks should be checked at the door, so to say. Talking about ideas in anonnymity is one thing, but talking about people just to say any old thing about them is quite different. however, I also think that just because you reveal your name, that doesn't give you license to throw out insults and bad language or go to name calling.

just my opinion.

Anonymous said...

I am a member of Citizens for Accountability. I would speak up and identify myself but I am afraid too. This is what we have to fear -

http://tinyurl.com/6xnwlsq

Anonymous said...

@3:44 No reason to fear stupidity. It's just ignorant rantings.

Anonymous said...

Don't worry. There are other posts worth viewing. Check this one out "Citizens of Accountability" member. This one ought to get our attention, unlike the stupid "satire" you mention. Click on the one that says, "Turning a Blind Eye to Parking Fines."

http://www.fox41.com/category/131482/point-of-view?redirected=true

Anonymous said...

http://www.fox41.com/category/131482/point-of-view?redirected=true

You have to click on the one about parking fines. Turning a Blind Eye to Parking Fines, it's called.

Anonymous said...

You know, I'm going to leave this anonymously, and I'm sure likely to be pounced for it, but I got up this morning and checked my e-mail and a friend had sent me a link to a broadcast on Fox 41 in which they interviewed Stephen Beardsley about the parking tickets. They also had Marcey on there.

OMG, this is amazing!!! Stephen Beardsley sat there, with a smug look on his face, and said, "Absolutely not," when the reporter asked if Beardsley intended to pay them. Then the reporter, obviously sensing his arrogance, asked him if he thought he was being arrogant. Again, he said no.

Why not? Because he knows the city won't pursue it, he said.

Then Marcey was interviewed and talked about people bringing in their laundry quarters!!

For crying out loud, New Albany! Can you not see our city is being run into the ground?!! We MUST insist that these bills be paid! We must!

I also got a link to an opinion piece by Fox 41. They laid the blame, quite properly, at our city attorney's door.

My husband and I wondered aloud what Fox 41 would think of our unpaid sewer bills!

Here are the links so you can see what I'm talking about.

http://www.fox41.com/story/13965461/fox-follow

On the second one, you have to click on the one you want, in this case, choose "Turning a Blind Eye to Parking Fines."

http://www.fox41.com/category/131482/point-of-view

Anonymous said...

@3:44 No reason to fear stupidity. It's just ignorant rantings.

by "ignorant ranting" you mean it makes a point you cannot ignore.

egyptian opposition members aren't anonymous. the one person on here posting under various aliases claiming to be various CFA members is anonymous.

the idea that new albany opposition has more to fear than egyptian opposition is just laughable.

Anonymous said...

"I have found myself unable to move all my cars every two hours five days a week for the last 22 years," says Beardsley."

The city has had a parking garage for years downtown that would accommodate his situation and others. He just refuses to obey the parking laws. Most cities that have housing downtown have a shortage of parking which can create problems. Fortunately our city happens to have a simple inexpensive solution for it. Purchase a monthly parking pass at the city garage!

Anonymous said...

Then the reporter, obviously sensing his arrogance, asked him if he thought he was being arrogant. Again, he said no.

Why not? Because he knows the city won't pursue it, he said.


Arrogance? Maybe.

Or maybe it's that Beardsley has lived here for 30+ years and has never seen a code enforced. He has reason to believe things won't change.

Remember that when people complain about code enforcement.

shirley baird said...

Obviously the city might as well throw that 100 page list away because after the FOX interview no one will pay a dime in parking tickets.

Anonymous said...

You got that right, Shirley. I'm going to park and not worry about the street sweeper any more. See? No worries...

Anonymous said...

I feel who ever is making the comments about Mr. Beardsley parking in the parking garage should have their home's parking space taken away. How convenient of them.

It boils down to lack of enforcement, lack of priorities for the City Attorney, leading to the Mayor's office. But, that's my opinion.

Anonymous said...

"I feel who ever is making the comments about Mr. Beardsley parking in the parking garage should have their home's parking space taken away. How convenient of them."

Mr. Beardsley did not have his home's parking space taken away. He never had his own parking spot for his home. He bought the property knowing that it did not have private off-street parking. When he purchased the property he did not purchase the road around it. Smart intelligent people take parking into consideration when they purchase property without off-street parking. Particularly if they have three vehicles! He has multiple parking options available, (1) on-street and move the vehicle to comply with parking restrictions, (2) city parking garage, (3)residential parking pass (4) park his cars at the city attorney’s house house.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Maybe the shoe needs to be on the other foot. Every one knows this is typical of our lack of enforcement. Rather than hanging one person maybe you might want to walk the distance from the parking garage whenever you come back from work or whenever you leave home and come back. It's easy to throw the rocks. He has lived and worked there longer than the parking garage has been in existence. Through rain sleet and snow he does his job and takes care of his building and contributes to the city. What do you do? Let him take care of his clients rather than walking (which he does on fair days). You must really not like him.

And why is his ticket the only one with a name on it? The other tickets don't have a name. Because the parking "police" know him? You need to ask Gibson how many he had. And there's a Judge, also. Come on.